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Old 11-27-2019, 02:54 PM   #4562
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: Knock yourself out -- preen away.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
Then why did you write that he views the dossier as fake as though it was true?
I don't understand what you are trying to ask. He referred to a "fake dossier," so I dropped that link to the Steele dossier. I'm sorry you missed the context when you posted in response.

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Nice try. No. I'm saying exactly what I wrote: The majority of Trumpkins are not bigots or racists. Most are economically fucked. Or greedy.
Since you insist on using the words "bigot" and "racist" differently than those people do, you're making a point about semantics, not facts. Also, you've repeatedly insisting that whether someone is either depends on understanding their state of mind, also not a simple question of fact. If someone says that 'Trumpkins are racist,' they are making a point about racism that you don't want to hear. They are interpreting the same facts available to you, but differently.

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Get out of your silo. There are five or six left leaning news sources for every one conservative or right news source. The left's hair is on fire about conservative media because, for some bizarre reason, Fox somehow retains a position as the most watched of all cable news networks. I wonder if the people on the left who flip out about Fox's influence have ever considered this basic rule of marketing:

If you have ten varieties of Cola A, but only one variety of Cola B, that one variety of Cola B will outsell on a one to one basis each variety of Cola A. But all of the varieties of Cola A taken together will outsell Cola B by 10:1.
As I said, there are mainstream news sources, and conservative news sources. I think the game you are playing is to call the mainstream sources "left-leaning," yes?

When you say that "the left's hair is on fire ... because ... Fox [is] the most watched of all cable news networks," you show that you have a lousy sense of what people to the left of you think. I don't know of anyone who gives a shit about whether Fox is watched, as such. People do give a shit about the propaganda that Fox pumps out, the fact that it is divorced from the facts that the rest of us share, and the fact that people who watch Fox regularly grow less well informed. Of course, there is no analogue to this on the left.
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