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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
JFC. You said "all" to me. I told you that the right wing has its own facts. You said, "but now we get to the serious stupidity of what you actually believe: That it’s only conservatives who have magical realities. Many progressives still believe trumpkins are all bigots. They believe in this crazy world where the only people who disagree with them are hopelessly backward and full of hate. They’re deluded in exactly the same way their conservative counterparts are. The only difference is they aren’t as cynical as the right." A few more posts back and forth and then it's today and here we are. If you forgot what you said last week, whatever. I do believe that conservatives have their own reality, and the left does not. To the extent that people like TM say things like "trumpkins are all bigots," they are making a point about bigotry that you disagree with, not relying on made-up facts.
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Let's unpack this quote of me on which you disingenuously hang your hat:
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"[B]ut now we get to the serious stupidity of what you actually believe: That it’s only conservatives who have magical realities."
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You do believe that. You've said it. Several times.
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Many progressives still believe trumpkins are all bigots.
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Many progressives do believe this. Did I say "all" progressives believe this? No. That would be untrue. As untrue as you saying all or most conservatives have false realities. Many conservatives do have false realities. But you can't say anywhere near all or even a majority of them do because that's a facially ludicrous statement.
Nor can you say it is only conservatives who live in fake realities. Again, you're talking out your ass when you say that. There are tons of progressives, moderates, liberals, right wingers, and conservatives who live in delusions. Some people are deluded only on certain issues.
Kurt Andersen wrote a very funny book outlining the various fantasy worlds in which Americans of every background have resided historically.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...ndersen-review
But hey -- don't let these sorts of pesky facts stand in the way of you stating that it's only conservatives who live in fantasyland.
Now, in reply to this, you'll walk back your position by saying, "I never said it was all conservatives, or only conservatives... I said conservatives do it more often, and to a greater extent." To that I'd say, congrats to those merely deluded progressives, liberals, and moderates out there! They should thank their stars they're not severely deluded like their conservative brethren!
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They believe in this crazy world where the only people who disagree with them are hopelessly backward and full of hate.
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This describes many progressives. You seriously going to argue that?
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They’re deluded in exactly the same way their conservative counterparts are. The only difference is they aren’t as cynical as the right.
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A progressive who believes all people who disagree with him, or who support Trump, are full of hate and hopelessly backward (and many of them do indeed believe that) is deluded in exactly the same manner Trumpkins who believe fantasies fed to them by their crazy media outlets are deluded. These are both low information voters.
