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Old 12-18-2019, 12:14 PM   #4871
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

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The IG found that the agents made loads of errors and withheld information which would have caused the court to question whether the warrant was properly issued. But the IG stopped short of saying the warrant was improperly issued. So did the judge.
Horowitz did a proctological exam in order to make Trump happy. I have little doubt that you could do the same sort of deep dive on most warrants, FISA or otherwise and come up with similar problems, and that's because most courts most of the time don't look at warrant applications very closely and grant them, and most law enforcement know and expect this and are kind of sloppy in their applications because it almost never matters. This will continue, because pretty much everyone is OK with the idea that law enforcement will get their warrants.

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But regarding Hillary, she's a bit different. She didn't do anything illegal. The server was scrubbed, but no one has ever proved she directed her lawyers to take that action. And while maybe it could be argued that the deletion was a crime, or that the use of the private server was a crime, these aren't the kinds of "crimes" anyone should or likely would prosecute.
I laugh at your fear-mongering about how we should be concerned that in the future, a Trump FBI will manufacture an investigation of Democrats. It happened in 2016, with a Democrat in the White House. And lest you forget, the head of the FBI sent a letter about Hillary -- after she did not commit a crime -- in late October that arguably cost her the election.

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Yoo didn't really do anything illegal either. He gave a contorted opinion justifying torture. But it was just an opinion. The people who followed it? That's a different story, perhaps. Cheney, OTOH, flat out lied to Congress about WMD. That guy committed a crime. And I have a hard time giving that behavior a pass because, while I'm sure he thought he was doing the right thing for the country, a ton of lives were lost for no good reason, and trillions were wasted.
How about the people who tortured? Obama's failure to go after them sent the message that torture isn't really a crime.

If a Democrat wins next year, she sure as hell should prosecute Trump officials who used their office to commit crimes.
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