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Old 01-24-2020, 12:15 PM   #176
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: Thou shalt not..

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall View Post
I wish smart people (and against all odds, I think of you as smart), would stop parroting this bullshit. You have it back asswards. Trump was a dirty, corrupt, idiot whose actions from the very start were illegal, unethical, and terrible for this country. That's what triggered everything from "wanting to nail" him from the start to the many (successful) criminal investigations he's had to endure.
Trump's people were coordinating with Russia long before he took office. Perhaps we have all forgotten that Jarod Kushner asked the Russian ambassador about using Russian embassy channels to communicate with Moscow before the inauguration. Trump's campaign was run by Manafort. Roger Stone is a criminal. Trump's National Security Advisor lied to the FBI, which is what really got Comey and Mueller going.

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I almost want to agree with you. But if you think that Trump's impeachment is in any way the product of what Gingrich and Starr did, you're insane and/or stupid.
All three are the product of what the conservative movement and the Republican Party have become, fueled by demographic changes in the country, the end of the Cold War and technological changes in media. Gingrich was the avatar, though.
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