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Old 02-12-2020, 02:22 PM   #359
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Re: stoned

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
You have a visceral reaction to prosecutors, about which whatever. The whole point of the sentencing guidelines is to take sentencing discretion away from judges and to give it to prosecutors. The prosecutors in this case charged Stone under the same law that applies to everyone else, and got a conviction in seven hours. I had been paying close enough attention to know that Credico says he didn't feel threatened. FWIW, I also understand something should be obvious: people who do feel threatened sometimes feel obliged to say they did not, see, e.g., the president of Ukraine. But whatever -- a jury heard more evidence than you did, and convicted Stone.

I don't really care whether Stone gets three years, or five, or seven. What I do care about is the principle that criminal prosecution should not be politicized. To say this "looks like" DOJ brass was kissing the President's ass is like being concerned that the Titanic looked like it was taking on water. Talk about burying the lede.
He who lies or puffs before the jury risks a mistrial or a JNOV. The judge may say, “nope... you’re lying there... fuck you.”

Here, the judge was/is free to rip the prosecutors for throwing frivolous leverage arguments at the court. The system is adversarial, but it’s not a “throw all the feces you can and see what works” process.

The DOJ is doing that which the judge should have been allowed to do.

Your comment that Credico is afraid of Stone and lying in his letter is to stupid to merit reply. Come on... that’s slumming for one of your usual insight.

Mueller’s minions are hall monitors of the worst kind. That prosecution of the Obama White House lawyer was outrageous. Thankfully, he was acquitted. Now how does he get back the million or so dollars and mental anguish over that ordeal?

Does the prosecutor say “sorry”?

Stone’s guilty. He took a dumb chance. He’s been ruined financially and will do time. Did those prosecutors really need an 8 level enhancement for what they knew was bullshit? Come on.
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