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Old 04-09-2020, 07:04 PM   #1112
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: Objectively intelligent.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
That’s a nice strawman.
What is the strawman? Most people who get the virus don't get hospitalized. Most people who get hospitalized don't die. If you take that medication, you are still unlike to get hospitalized or, if you do, to die. The same is true if you paint your left arm blue. It doesn't mean either made a difference.

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Now deal with this:

1. There is no huge data set. All we have is anecdata. These are the cards. Play the hand. Don’t argue about how great it’d be if we had a better hand. No shit it’d be better.
There actually are data sets. There are people who are looking at this rigorously. The New York Post is not interested in publicizing that research because it is not uplifting, does not suggest that there is a miracle cure, and will not sell newspapers.

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2. Icky and I have both known people who have had excellent results on this drug. I’ve spoken to docs who have seen it cause people on oxygen to come off oxygen. I’ve also had docs tell me lupus patients on it have bizarrely done well with Covid despite being compromised. Guess what drug they were on.
Your use of the word "cause" in that sentence is telling. Plenty of people who are on oxygen then come off oxygen. But when it happens with someone who has taken your wonder drug, people who should know better attribute cause and effect to the correlation. I'm sure there are some doctors who believe that the drugs caused a better outcome. That doesn't mean that they're right.
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