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Old 04-10-2020, 10:48 AM   #1130
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Re: Objectively intelligent.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
It works to a significant degree and they know it. They're giving to people here.

The problem is, if you get it too late, it does not work. Once the cytokine storm has gone too far, it appears there's no way back.

BUT, here's how our delightful media engages in sleight of hand: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...isn-t-n1177556

The article should be titled, "Hydroxychloroquine Found Only Effective if Used Early." That's entirely factual, and if our media cared, rather than wanted to see a fight, and more deaths to increase ratings, they'd write the story that way. Because if people read a story like that, they'd seek the drug early, before they wound up burdening an ICU by having to be put on a ventilator.

But no -- our media isn't going to be honest at all. On the right, Fox will talk about how the drug is miracle cure. It's not. On the left, they'll shade stories however they can to suggest it's not effective. It is.

Politics. Tribalism. We've got a gun pointed at our heads and we're still at it. Amazing.

ETA: I've a family member who practiced cancer medicine, among a few other specialties, for over 50 years. I asked this person about the heart attack risk. Response was, "Minimal. They hand it out like candy in Africa." I have clients who are originally from and regularly travel back to Africa. They verified that statement. I asked about whether a z pak had any adverse side effects. The doc in my family told me that choice of the z pak is not predicated solely on its ability to avoid secondary bacterial pneumonia, but also because for reasons unknown, z pak will uniquely decrease inflammation. See that in the media? Fuck no.

Here's an enormous steaming pile of sophistry: https://www.vox.com/2020/4/7/2120953...clinical-trial That cat should go to law school. A common man reading that article would have no idea how cleverly he'd just been victimized by someone dishonestly re-framing an issue to avoid addressing the important question.
It's good to know that your lack for judgment extends beyond politics.

The media isn't being "tribal." They're doing what they do. Ask the experts and repeat what they say. The skepticism isn't from the media. It from people who actually know what they are talking about.
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