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Old 07-01-2020, 10:51 AM   #2277
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Re: Not everything is racist, or even has to do With race

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall View Post
No that’s not it. I didn’t read one word of your treatise on being sebby. But I know nothing has changed. You dominate this board by saying stupid sebby shit and people spend their time debating it in some never ending, pointless exercise while you just keep repeating yourself without ever actually hearing anything.

Same old bullshit.

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I listened to you, I read the book, and I buy systemic racism.

My complaint is with Adder and frivolous people like him who've abused those notions. He's dumb. People like him are dumb. I don't like the well-intentioned dumb any more than I like the nefarious dumb.

How is he dumb? Here, finally, he has explained why he thinks Taibbi's piece was racist:
"[T]he piece and the ideas it expressed were racist, in that it disparaged antiracist ideas and upheld racists ones."
"What he said had the inherent character of reinforcing existing racial hierarchies and dismissing attempts to dismantle them."
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This "logic" asserts that anything that disparages antiracist ideas is racist. That necessarily means ALL antiracist ideas are beyond criticism. Obviously, this is moronic, as nothing can be beyond criticism.

Now to his second point, that Taibbi held up racist ideas. He of course does not explain that with specifics. He just declares Taibbi's criticisms as racist using his own subjective view that anything that criticizes antiracist ideas is racist. This takes "putting the rabbit in the hat" to levels I've never seen before.

This kind of thinking is, again, just fucking dumb. I struggle to even call it thinking. DiAngelo herself would likely bristle at the notion that she was beyond criticism.

Adder seems to have a binary view that there is racism and there is antiracism, and that anything that critiques antiracism must be racism. There is no ground in between. That's something one would expect to hear from a person who is mentally challenged.

He'll of course walk it back here by saying he was only talking about Taibbi, and now that he's pressed, he'll cherry pick some of what Taibbi said and j'accuse!-- he'll declare it racism. But that'll be bullshit. His history of overuse of the pejorative here renders his silliness - a silliness shared with loads of less than rigorous thinkers like him - bare:

He believes that what is said in favor of dismantling racism is beyond criticism and what criticizes it may automatically be dismissed as racism.

TL;DR: The Ends Justify the Means.

He said it. And it's pretty fucking dumb.
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