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					Originally Posted by Adder  Yeah, but how do they see this playing out well for them? They were already getting their chaos narrative out of it before the Feds arrived. All they could do is provoke Moms and other “normal” people to join in. 
 I guess maybe they are either not smart enough to foresee that or just want to be able to claim to be doing something, or both.
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 Their reaction is always to double down. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Here it doesn't seem to be working.
A question I have is, if not for the video of Pettibone (I think that was his name) getting grabbed and thrown into a minivan, would people have reacted so strongly to the federal presence? It seems like that video made thinks real and aroused a backlash, much mores than newspaper stories about what was going on. The aggressive response might have worked if the story was, "federal police suppress looters and rioters that Portland was too soft to do anything about." But when the story is "anonymous men in riot gear kidnapping people and tear-gassing moms," not so much. Was the second narrative inevitable? Maybe, maybe not.
Also, don't forget that the White House generally is operating within an epistemic bubble. Their sources are ideologically right. It often surely makes them think things will play better than they do.