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Old 08-14-2020, 06:26 PM   #2899
Hank Chinaski
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Um, what? What did I say that you disagree with?

The bakery owner fired his daughter. The story says, "Majdi Wadi is trying to save the business and his family's reputation. He says he's also determined to make amends for his daughter's posts and learn to be an ally fighting anti-Blackness going forward."

If he wants to make amends (hey, he fired his daughter and seems genuinely think she did something wrong), then he thinks he has something to make amends for. He is holding himself to account. Are you second-guessing him?

The person he turned to for help was upset, but also sees a path to redemption. Do you have a problem with that?
But El-Amin, along with other Black customers, was still upset. "My family had supported his business for many, many years. He had a relationship with my mother as well, who also called me amidst this and was like 'What's going on with this?'" he said. "It's interesting that dynamic of how those who have suffered from oppression at whatever level have always been called on to be the ones to be forgiving, always been asked to be understanding, always the one to be called onto to provide the cover."

But he decided to hear Wadi out. Redemption — accompanied by accountability and justice — are cornerstones of his belief system, El-Amin said.

"God says, if He were to give all of us what's coming ... based on our activities, he wouldn't leave a single soul. That's sobering," he said. "It's through His mercy that he gives us the opportunity to give this chance. I believe if you want mercy, you've got to give mercy, too. But there's also accountability. That's also part of it."
It's an interesting article. Good luck to all of them. If your take-away is that bakery owner should not have to apologize for anything, you are the one who seems to be disagreeing with everyone quoted in that article, not me. Reading comprehension much?

Not sure what that article has to do with cancel culture in your mind, unless "cancel culture" means there should be no consequences for saying racist stuff.



Yes, I was pretty sure you would defend what Taibbi did without reading what I linked. Let me help:



I can't believe that you would read this and say, "people engage in humor that offends others. People say things that are insensitive. Get over it. These hall monitors who make a life out of finding grievance with anything that can be portrayed as even slightly offensive are miserable bores who are ruining art." Yes, I think Taibbi should repent, and I don't think he should be heard complaining about cancel culture until he owns what he did. It is beyond obvious that many of the people complaining about "cancel culture" have done things that are indefensible and would rather talk about "cancel culture" to avoid answering for them.

Those are your bedfellows and they are shitting the bed. If you want to stay in bed with them, that's certainly your right.
so this board was offensive as to gay people, say 10 years ago. I wrote "jokes" as did others. Then ncs and RT just said stop, and we did. But several of us made those "jokes." If I get tapped to host the Oscars can I not do it once that comes out?

And so you think Taibbi, whoever he is, apologizing means anything? Did you believe the football guy who said he didn't realize complimenting Hitler would be offensive? Those apologies are nonsense.
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