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09-30-2020, 12:07 PM
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Pretty Little Flower
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Re: Problem solved.
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sebastian_dangerfield
It's neither. I change positions all the time and shift arguments. Flower has a set of positions. He's a pretty cookie cutter liberal/progressive. He toes a pretty predictable line. GGG is predictably neoliberal/progressive. His is a slightly different line, but fairly predictable.
You're open to suggestion. Mix of libertarian, tech bro, progressive, and classic old line liberal. Hard to put into any single category. This is a compliment, by the way. Hank is old school GOP/Dem moderate mixed -- a nearly extinct thing once known as a liberal/Rockefeller Republican.
I don't really know what I support from day to day, but as Adder noted, self interest is pretty high on the list. I only depart from self interest dependably on matters such as freedom of speech, on which I'm absolutist and kind of a zealot. And as you note, I am conservative in generally avoiding policy interventions. I don't believe in the state's ability to Make Things Better. But if it's the right policy (read: one I like), I'll take a liberal stance (UBI). (But that's also my neoliberal slip showing, as UBI is a placation policy for those losing out in the new economy, so I might simply be acting in self-interest there.)
This means I am highly undependable. You can't expect me to hold to much. Also, I don't pay attention to much of what I've written before and in exchanges with Flower will say just about anything. Because I don't care about those exchanges, which are usually ad hominen back and forths. You'll notice that in exchanges with you or Hank, I'll put a little more care into it. I'll make some effort at consistency and not just recalling things in whatever is the most expedient fashion for me at the moment. But it'll still fail because I'm not consistent.
But you can't call it a reckless disregard for the truth. I don't change facts on which we disagree. I can't. Trump said words last nite. I won't say he didn't say them, because I can't. I may try to argue what I think he actually "means" when he says something, but that's just my spin, my guess.
Where I think the reckless disregard accusation may be applied is I will say I argued something a certain way and in fact, I actually previously argued it differently, or in exactly the opposite fashion. But if you look back on most of what I've argued, you'll see a lot of it is trolling, and a lot of it is inconsistent, sometimes within the same post or series of posts. I'll disagree with and contradict myself endlessly. So I'd agree with your assessment I've authored a fair amount of bullshit.
The last time you told everyone what my political views are, I asked you to find one post, one sentence, that supported your statements that I believed, for example, that the George Floyd killing would not have occurred were it not for Trump. You came up with nothing. You know virtually nothing about what my political views are so you just make things up. Maybe its reckless, maybe its intentional. It doesn’t really matter. You’re still just a liar. You even lie about your lying. You’re a meta-liar! But I’ll still send back the oysters when you die. I’ll get the Hamachi Crudo instead. #respect
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