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[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

https://clerk.macombgov.org/sites/de...ber_4_2008.pdf

https://clerk.macombgov.org/sites/de...ber16/105.html

This is 2008 and 2016 election results in Macomb County. The % for Trump flipped 10% compared to McCain. The 2008 numbers held in 2012 and the 2016 in 2020.

It's where I grew up. I remember after college a friend got a chance to be campaign manager for an R congress candidate. I joined in because of lots of $$$ to spend. I remember working a poll on election day. A huge % of the voters came in holding a piece of paper where the UAW told them they need to vote D. Our whole campaign was pointless. But anyhoo, it is VERY working class.

And the problem with those articles (beyond exit polls- who would say what they actually make?) is the comparison to "average." The really really poor around here vote D in amazing %s. And those people take down the "average."

But those aren't who Sebby is talking about. Sebby is talking about people who have a bit to lose, and are seeing it erode away. I am sure some wealthy people vote Trump, but the vast majority of who I see around here sporting Trump 2024 flags or Don't tread on Me flags, or, just recently flying Fuck Biden flags (in Northern Mi a month ago to pick up my new puppy I saw all 3 flags flying in the same pick up truck bed!) are not wealthy people.

You asked a question, I was curious, did a quick Google search and sent you some results. Your anecdotes don’t really persuade me the articles are not accurate, but I also don’t really care. Just trying to be helpful. Because I am a good Lawtalkers citizen.