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Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
I just don't find the viability test to be vastly more intellectually suspect than conception.
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Why?
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Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
There could be another person (for simplicity's sake, you can call him the Pope) who says that all sex has the potential to create life and so we should ban all birth control and nonprocreative sex.
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Whoa Nelly! Back up and read that to yourself, again. Are you sure that was the analogy you wanted to use?
"Sex" is an act that one does. An act is not something that posseses rights that are weighed against another's rights. It is an act performed by a person (who has rights). Acts that people do don't have rights. The people have the rights. The abortion debate centers on weighing the rights of two beings against each other.
Note to LDE: anything described with a verb doesn't have rights. The things that have righs are described by nouns, although not all nouns have rights.
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Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
They could see conception as an arbitrary line and in doing so call you "intellectually dishonest" for supporting the denial of life to all of the little potential fetuses who are so insensitively captured in a latex baggie and thrown in the garbage.
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See my post to Ty. Sperm is a cell from a human being, but it is not a human being. Neither is a kidney.
BTW - still haven't heard anyone give me a definition of what is a human being. Hint: sex is not a human being.
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Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
In other words, I feel that your choice of conception as the dividing line is not as logically inevitable as you are making it out to be.
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Why? Is it because a sperm is a human being or is it because sex is a human being. Seriously. Explain to me again how the sperm/sex analogy cause you to arrive at your conclusion that conception as the dividing line is not logically inevitable. You lost me on that one.
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Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
[eating lunch so I am letting myself be sucked back in despite my "embarrassing" losses earlier today. be gentle.]
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Me, too. What are you having? I am having a bowl of Lucky Charms, which I am delighted to tell you have WAY better marshmallows nowadays than when I was a kid. More and better colors, too. Had potato skins for breakfast, hence the cereal for lunch. Trying to balance out my diet a bit.
