Connect_the_Dots
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 11:49 am__ _Post subject: Re: Books
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
I am reading Tao Te Ching. It's part of my effort to become a better person. It's total utter fucking torture. I just don't get it.
I have read it several versions of it. It is great. If you "don't get it", you probably have a bad translation--of which there are many. You should've started out by reading "Chuang Tzu", but if you have any questions about TTChing, you can email me or post it here.
Also, you might try "the Tao of Pooh", a book about a Taoist explaining its tenets to Winnie the Pooh. It is the closest thing to Taoism for Dummies.
C(but the "Te of Piglet" is worthless)tDBack to top
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baltassoc
Just Getting Started
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 11:54 am__ _Post subject: Re: Books
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spookyfish wrote:
And on a heavier note, I like Warren Zevon too, but last I heard, he was very ill (like George Harrison ill). Has anybody heard any news about him lately?
He's still around, and is recording a new album. You may be interested in the following:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/26/magazine/26ZEVON.html
(spree: NY Times article - may require free registration, but otherwise harmless).
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greatwhitenorthchick
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 11:56 am__ _Post subject:
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I read Tao of Pooh many years ago and quite liked it - that's why I thought I'd like the real thing- but I seem to have a horrible translation. It doesn't make sense. Could you please direct me to a good translation?Back to top
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Tyrone_Slothrop
I post, ergo I am
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 244
Location: Somewhere in the Black Hills of South Dakota
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 11:58 am__ _Post subject: Re: Worldwide: erfect female hip to waist ratio
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coupdskek wrote:
coupdskek wrote:
Careful with the ambiguous prozeugma. Someone might accuse me of being one of black Francis' fanboys.
MangoLassi wrote:
Not so. We're discussing sex and fashion, you pop stars.
We're discussing all three really, Thurgreed's nickname being francis, his color being black, his status as an FB star unquestioned, and you saying I'm his. His gunsel?
Jeezus Christ, can someone just send me the Cliff notes? Because I think I'm missing some synecdoche or something.Back to top
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paigowprincess
Beyond Category
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 116
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:04 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Birmingham Idol - Motown Review
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EvenOdds wrote:
str8_outa_covina wrote:
That said, evenodds, I think you're insane to think that Corey was one of the worst? For the first time, I could see him winning. I think he'll get to the top 5, certainly.
Jigga-wha?
Jigga-who?
Just because he has the voice of a castrati does't alleviate his responsibility to hit the notes in his song.
I can't stand his "singing."
Ultimately, what I want to hear on AI is something that you could conceivably put on a radio. That eliminates Clay and his gayer than cheese broadway-lounge act. Though the girls love him, it's the geek-love thing and like any crush it will pass. Kim Locke doesn't have a strong enough voice to overcome her look (i.e., she's no Martha Wash) and her perfomance isn't that interesting. Last night was bad. She might be able to pull off another good performance but for now she seems rather one dimensional.
Of all the people performing last night, I think Kim Caldwell, Charles, Trenyce, Ruben, and maybe Josh could make money in the music business.
I gotta agree that Ruben will win. He has "star quality". He has that thing that Shaq has- that winning smile, that outsized body and personality, plus serious talent to go. He sang his song so differently and made it his. I thought that nobody touched him and Trenyce (but again I didnt see it all). I think Kim Caldwell has a nice voice in a Melissa Etheridge throaty ikinda way and it could be a winning voice. But she is not Britney hot and she doesnt have the overall star quality that Ruben does. Trenyce reminds me of a nubjian princess with a fabulous voice and great smile and presence, but giiven that not everyone loves her here, I cant think she has a chance. Clay and Julie have a great future on cruise ships and I have no idea who anyone else is. Ruben wins. Was he the lead in the odds making ?Back to top
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ThurgreedMarshall
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Location: New York fuckin' City
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:07 pm__ _Post subject: Re: AI: Motown review!!!
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SEC_Chick wrote:
Quick AI review
Trenyce: This is the first time I was impressed with her. Still don't care for the clothes... for the smae reason I dodn't care for Julia's clothes. Mainly because they looked trashy.
She was fantastic. She had her own style while paying tribute to the Motown style at the same time. I thought this was the best performance I've ever seen on AI (although I haven't seen that many).
SEC_Chick wrote:
Reuben: Very good. But sometimes I think his facial expressions don't really fit with the song he's singing.
He was very, very good. His voice is just smooth and he doesn't overdo the inflections and the running up and down the scale that so many dumb ass R&B artists do nowadays. He is talented and should land a record deal somewhere.
SEC_Chick wrote:
Josh: Still got that country sound. Thought Simon was right to tell him to lose a couple pounds... but I am still wondering why he's never mentioned it to Kim L. I am not wild about him, and don't want him to win, but he apparently has a decent fan base.
At first I didn't get it with this guy. He is a marine and he's that fat? Who cares how many push ups you can do? You don't look good. And why is it that people can't look past national pride and vote him off because he sucks? He's cheesy and the twang he artificially adds to words that shouldn't be twunged makes any song he sings sound bad. Motown with a twang? Uh, no. Too bad he'll stick around all the way to the final three.
SEC_Chick wrote:
And my personal fave: CLAY!!!!!!! (What?!?! No kissy-face or hearty emoticon?!?! If there were one I would insert it here. I feel lost. I prefer to express sentiment with stupid smilies than with words....) I was concernend as to how well he would sing motown and was quite pleasantly surprised. He really did a great job, but I think the hair has taken a step back.
Is this the pretty boy with the new braids whose bio piece had something to do with some cop? I couldn't watch the bio and I ended up missing most of his performance (saw part of it at the end when they recapped). He sounded flat to me. I think he only made it this far because he looks like the american idol should.
SEC_Chick wrote:
All in all most of the performances were ok. I was impressed that they did so well. If I had to sing that genre, I would have immeasurably sucked myself.
I thought that other than Trenyce and Reuben, the performances were highly forgettable. Motown songs are great and there has to be one right for you out there. Are they allowed to pick their own songs for this part of the competition?
Thurgreed(how long are they going to drag this out?)MarshallBack to top
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Connect_the_Dots
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:08 pm__ _Post subject:
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
Could you please direct me to a good translation?
Check your fakemail in about 20 minutes.Back to top
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Not_Bob
My inner chick is in my Hermes
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Posts: 44
Location: Podunkville
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:13 pm__ _Post subject: What's a poor Canadian farm boy to do?
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
I am waiting for them to announce that Wendel has come out of retirement, along with Rick Vaive and Bill Derlago. If this was 1990, we'd have a kick-ass team.
Now, now, now -- Nolan isn't that old. Housley is (how did the Rangers not get him?), but Owen -- assuming his back isn't too bad -- will wreck some serious havoc in the playoffs. What a great pick-up. I hereby pick the Leafs to win the East. (Of course, I did that last year, and look how that worked out.)
greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
I think the Rangers have some serious firepower - if they do ever gel, some of their lines are like Dream Team lines (again, circa 1990 or so) .
Please PLEASE please let them catch the Isles or the Bruins. If they squeeze in as the 8th seed, Ottowa is toast. Get me one of them Anson Carter blue sweaters!
Not (I don't care who wins the East, so long as it isn't Puddy's Devils or Not Bobby Clarke's Flyers) BobBack to top
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SEC_Chick
Just Getting Started
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Posts: 12
Location: A pool of my own vomit
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:28 pm__ _Post subject: Re: AI: Motown review!!!
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Is this the pretty boy with the new braids whose bio piece had something to do with some cop? I couldn't watch the bio and I ended up missing most of his performance (saw part of it at the end when they recapped). He sounded flat to me. I think he only made it this far because he looks like the american idol should.
No, no no. That's Corey. Clay is the gay looking elf with big ears that bl and I are going to have to fight over.
Geek love. I know you understand that.Back to top
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ThurgreedMarshall
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Location: New York fuckin' City
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:30 pm__ _Post subject: Alert
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dtb wrote:
I'm thinking of one right now that I think was called "Gap Creek" -- very memorable.
Why do people do this? It's almost as bad as "lol" and "rotflmao."
Some words can't be modified. Some words shouldn't have adverbs. It happens all the damn time and it's driving me crazy.
Either the book was memorable or it wasn't. It can't be very memorable.
Other examples:
very perfect
very extreme
etc.
Don't pick a word that is absolute and then modify it. It sounds very horrible, don't you think?
TM (rule number 4081)Back to top
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EvenOdds
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:36 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Alert
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
dtb wrote:
I'm thinking of one right now that I think was called "Gap Creek" -- very memorable.
Why do people do this? It's almost as bad as "lol" and "rotflmao."
Some words can't be modified. Some words shouldn't have adverbs. It happens all the damn time and it's driving me crazy. TM (rule number 4081)
That rule follows "record company people are shady"?
Who wrote this crazy rule book?
Even(living my life according to the teachings of the great Thurgreed)OddsBack to top
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Mister_Ruysbroeck
Piss me off and your code is gone!
Joined: 06 Mar 2003
Posts: 95
Location: The Midwest...
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:37 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Alert
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
dtb wrote:
I'm thinking of one right now that I think was called "Gap Creek" -- very memorable.
Why do people do this? It's almost as bad as "lol" and "rotflmao."
Some words can't be modified. Some words shouldn't have adverbs. It happens all the damn time and it's driving me crazy.
Either the book was memorable or it wasn't. It can't be very memorable.
Who knew TM was short for Timmy?Back to top
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Tyrone_Slothrop
I post, ergo I am
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 244
Location: Somewhere in the Black Hills of South Dakota
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:39 pm__ _Post subject:
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Connect_the_Dots wrote:
greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
Could you please direct me to a good translation?
Check your fakemail in about 20 minutes.
You can also send private messages on this site by using the "pm" button at the bottom of a post, or by going to your inbox and composing one (link is at the top of the screen -- "You have no new messages"). Unless you change your preferences (?), you will get a pop-up window when someone sends you a PM, so you don't need to keep checking.Back to top
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ThurgreedMarshall
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Location: New York fuckin' City
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:39 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Thurgreed's breast-to-hip/waist ratios; the Family
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pursejunkie wrote:
Thurgreed, believe it or not, I was addressing _women's_ perspective on their own racks, given that several female posters were going back-and-forth complaining, not what makes you ogle 'em or not. Whether you disagree with how women actually regard themselves was irrelevant to my peaceable call for posters to quit bemoaning the state of their bosoms
You seem to think I look at you (in particular) and your posts in a manner other than as giving me the opportunity to drop irrational, subjective rules and opinions from the sky on your little head. You are wrong.
Besides, any mention of breasts opens the door to the full spectrum of breasticle posts, of which The Ratio will always be included.
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Tyrone_Slothrop
I post, ergo I am
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 244
Location: Somewhere in the Black Hills of South Dakota
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:41 pm__ _Post subject:
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The Ratio will always be included.
Well, thank God for that. Someone might forget.Back to top
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ThurgreedMarshall
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Location: New York fuckin' City
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:52 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Alert
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Mister_Ruysbroeck wrote:
Who knew TM was short for Timmy?
Who knew MR was short for rimjob?
Thurgreed(oh wait. everybody)MarshallBack to top
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MangoLassi
What's in a rank?
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 64
Location: Imperial Rome
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:55 pm__ _Post subject:
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Moderator: A Modest Proposal.
Could there be a separate forum for lawyer TV fans?
Modestly,
MangoL., fan of Six Feet Under, Sopranos, Will & Grace, West Wing, Joe Millionaire & SurvivorBack to top
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ltlfb
I Sure Do Post A Lot
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:57 pm__ _Post subject:
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Mangola,
Is your avatar a picture of frankenstein's bride? The hair seems too short.Back to top
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MangoLassi
What's in a rank?
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 64
Location: Imperial Rome
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:01 pm__ _Post subject: It's Maria Callas
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ltlfb wrote:
Mangola,
Is your avatar a picture of frankenstein's bride? The hair seems too short.
Yes, I chose an even bigger diva than Mrs. F.
But a friend pointed out that I should have chosen Karen Walker . . .Back to top
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str8_outa_covina
I Sure Do Post A Lot
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 36
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:02 pm__ _Post subject: Re: I don't give a fuck about hockey
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
I am waiting for them to announce that Wendel has come out of retirement, along with Rick Vaive and Bill Derlago. If this was 1990, we'd have a kick-ass team.
Can Rocky Saginuck or John Anderson come back too? With Alan Bester and Kenny Wregget in goal? Maybe Borje can man the point.
Ok enough memories.
str(Ian Turnbull was before my time)8.Back to top
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paigowprincess
Beyond Category
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 116
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:03 pm__ _Post subject:
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MangoLassi wrote:
Moderator: A Modest Proposal.
Could there be a separate forum for lawyer TV fans?
Modestly,
MangoL., fan of Six Feet Under, Sopranos, Will & Grace, West Wing, Joe Millionaire & Survivor
Can we put the kabosh on this before it is opened up again?Back to top
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MangoLassi
What's in a rank?
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 64
Location: Imperial Rome
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:04 pm__ _Post subject:
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Oh, and sports fans:
You might want to use the Tailgate forum, which was created especially for you.
(Fine, I realize that includes my post re pro cycling. So sue me.)Back to top
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barely_legal
Reality show contestant stalker
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 39
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:13 pm__ _Post subject:
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MangoLassi wrote:
Moderator: A Modest Proposal.
Could there be a separate forum for lawyer TV fans?
No. And I'm not even a moderator. So there.
Anyway, I forgot to mention my favorite moment on AI. When Simon critiqued Julia's performance and told her "but I wouldn't take any bows if I were you" and she thought he was dissing her performance and said "your opinion doesn't matter" when he was really just commenting on the shortness of her skirt. She is so stupid, it was truly beautiful. Not as beautiful as Melissa's "mercenary" comment on JM, but still a classic.Back to top
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robustpuppy
My rank is higher than your rank.
Joined: 09 Mar 2003
Posts: 100
Location: Stockpiling Claritin
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:13 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Thurgreed's breast-to-hip/waist ratios; the Family
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Besides, any mention of breasts opens the door to the full spectrum of breasticle posts, of which The Ratio will always be included.
T[i]M[my]
1. Don't you mean "in which" ?
2. Is a spectrum by definition full, notwithstanding the frequent use of modifiers before it?
3. Can't something be more memorable then something else, in that the memories of it are fuller, more vivid, more detailed?
For example, if I were to rank FB posts along the full spectrum of memorableness, TM's polemics on breasts, particularly the posts about the jiggliness factor ("compare an 18 year old's breasts to a 35 year old's") are more memorable than the "craziest thing you ever did while drunk" or wedding invitation RSVP-card-or-no posts, but less memorable than multo's t-f post.
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Replaced_Texan
I am simply a cog in the Lawtalk Machine
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 67
Location: Deep in the heart
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:13 pm__ _Post subject:
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I've never been a big fan of pigeonholing into different topics or threads, because I think it tends to interrupt the free flow of conversation. I think it's not a big deal to scroll past something thats not of interest, especially on a page with twenty different posts.
This board has historically been a pop cultural catchall board, which sometimes includes books, TV, movies, fashion, technology, sports, pets, kids, workplace frustrations, sex, recreation, cooking, travel etc. While certainly there have been other fora that have been more appropriate for discussion about some of these things, I can't remember any subject being kicked out of the fashion board in the past, even if there was another board that was more appropriate for the discussion.
That said, I am a go with the flow kind of person, so if the overwhelming support is for separate threads for books / movies / TV / music / etc, I'd go with that.Back to top
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ThurgreedMarshall
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Location: New York fuckin' City
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:14 pm__ _Post subject: No
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MangoLassi wrote:
Oh, and sports fans:
You might want to use the Tailgate forum, which was created especially for you.
Paigow is right. No separate boards for sports and TV and whatever. This is the FB. As long as you're not posting politics (and even some of that is okay) and firm info, it goes here.
Thurgreed(were you even on the old board?)MarshallBack to top
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Mister_Ruysbroeck
Piss me off and your code is gone!
Joined: 06 Mar 2003
Posts: 95
Location: The Midwest...
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:14 pm__ _Post subject:
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Mango - this is meant to be the free-wheeling FB. Any and all topics are welcome here.
And re: the creation of additional topics, I don't think we want to do that. It causes the discussion to become to disjointed. It's better for the community if everyone's on the same page, both literally and figuratively.
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Mister_Ruysbroeck
Piss me off and your code is gone!
Joined: 06 Mar 2003
Posts: 95
Location: The Midwest...
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:18 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Alert
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Just call me Timmy wrote:
Mister_Ruysbroeck wrote:
Who knew TM was short for Timmy?
Who knew MR was short for rimjob?
Thurgreed(oh wait. everybody)Marshall
Sorry, TM, I just can't pass up an opportunity to post that timmy picture. It's exactly how I picture ole timmy.Back to top
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MangoLassi
What's in a rank?
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 64
Location: Imperial Rome
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:21 pm__ _Post subject: Re: No
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Paigow is right. No separate boards for sports and TV and whatever. This is the FB. As long as you're not posting politics (and even some of that is okay) and firm info, it goes here.
Thurgreed(were you even on the old board?)Marshall
So, the point of separate forums for separate topics is . . . is what? That there actually IS a separate forum for sports is just a coincidence I guess. Maybe we should do away with all the forums on this board.
If there were some easier way in this new format (in contrast to on the Infirmation board) to skip lengthy posts not of interest, none of this would be an issue.
Oh, and I missed the rule that this board had a membership limited to the Infirmation participants. My mistake!Back to top
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MangoLassi
What's in a rank?
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 64
Location: Imperial Rome
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:29 pm__ _Post subject: Misunderstanding
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Mister_Ruysbroeck wrote:
Mango - this is meant to be the free-wheeling FB. Any and all topics are welcome here.
And re: the creation of additional topics, I don't think we want to do that. It causes the discussion to become to disjointed. It's better for the community if everyone's on the same page, both literally and figuratively.
My apologies. I understood that a freewheeling discussion was the point of the Watercooler forum. I thought a board called Fashionistas actually had to do with fashion and, as advertised, sex.
Re disjointed discussions: I think I know what you're trying to say, but the reason I made the suggestion is the whiplash I've gotten transitioning among "all topics" discussed here. Disjointing. Owww!
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