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What if I dislike them because they keep women shrouded in sheets from head to toe or stone a woman to death for a charge of adultery because they believe that god said that was what they should do? Can I dislike them for that or is that an illogical dislike and makes me a bigot?
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In this case you are disliking them for the heinious actions undertaken in the name of religion, not because they are religious. Your dislike is rational - hence not a bigot.
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If people think a group like Heaven's Gate is a religion and they believe that a mass suicide is necessary to get to heaven, am I wrong for not liking them solely because of that belief? Am I not being logical when I dislike them for having that religious belief?
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Not sure why you would dislike people for committing suicide.
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Originally posted by Not Me What if one of the religious teachings of your religion is that homosexuality is a sin and you are against gay marriages for that reason? Are you a bigot because that is illogical to be against gay marriage when your religious leaders teach you it is a sin?
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Tougher question because you've essentially taken away any intent on the part of the alleged bigot, which is a cop-out for those people. I would say you are not a bigot but your religion is.
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Originally posted by Not Me I think that the possibility that bigamy will at least be de-criminalized is high unless we get a constitutional amendment defining marriage as one man and one woman given that the arguments used for gay marriage can be used to support polygamy and there is no good way to argue for one without also arguing for the other.
I also think that there are men who are not religious and who would engage in polygamy if it were legal. A good example is Francois Mitterand, who had a mistress that essentially was his second wife. He had a child by her and he financially supported that family and treated her and the child as his second family. She attended his funeral and was welcomed by society as a life partner of his. She was constructively his second wife regardless of whether she was called "wife" or not.
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Your point seems to be that we must prohibit gay marriage because if we don't we can't prohibit polygamy. That seems to be somewhat backwards to me. If there are not sound reasons for prohibiting either, then both should be permitted. This constant reliance on the marriage definition is a farce to begin with, given that 56% of all marriages end in divorce. Marriage in not the societal underpinning that its advocates make it out to be.
