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		| Originally posted by Atticus Grinch If I may, I think Club's difference of opinion originates from his child-like wonder at markets.  Unlike you, he doesn't realize that markets wouldn't exist but for the governments that protect them, prescribe their operations, and enforce their rules.  To him, free trade preexisted protectionism.  Silly, I know, but bear with me.  So the default position for him is no trade barriers internationally ab initio; if American workers have been receiving a wage premium in the international labor marketplace as a result of protectionism since 1604, they're merely going to lose what the government had no right to give them in the first place, so no tears and no reparations, there's no crying in baseball.
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 Sorry to inform you, but this is exactly what I believe.  Markets exist without regard to governments, though at times government oversight may provide a net efficiency (though government is not the necessary overseer in the equation).