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Old 05-20-2004, 10:05 PM   #343
Tyrone Slothrop
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marginalizing Sadr

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I have, and have posted as much on these boards. However, I get the gut feeling that things are turning. It will take time, but they are turning.

The opposite side of the coin is that you guys want a democracy cut from whole cloth in roughly the length of a sit com. Granted, the execution post victory has been terrible, but this shit takes time and there are going to be mistakes. But there has been a lot of good news that has been completely ignored (e.g., half of Iraq's ministeries are now under Iraqi rule). Rome, errr, post-WWII Germany/Japan were not built in a day.

I also predict that Bush will be vindicated on WMD. This does not change his post war execution, but at least it will shut a lot of holes.

edited to add "time"
I was trying to bust Slave's chops, not to sweep you in.

I had no expectations about how easy this was going to be. But the mistakes we have made have made things much, much worse. There may be good news, but there was a lot of good stuff going on in Weimar Germany, too. The Titanic is resting on the floor of the North Atlantic, largely intact. The question is how it turns out. IMHO, we fucked up by trying to do too much on the cheap, by refusing to share control with the UN, and by insisting on this June 30 date. Not sure we can overcome any of this.

Even if they find some WMD now, Bush will be far from vindicated. But I don't want to get into that again.
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