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Old 04-10-2018, 11:52 AM   #164
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: We are all Slave now.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
1. The Nordics are the Saudis of the North. Petro-states with small populations can run a long time before the resources are exhausted.

But to your point, all pure democracies will eventually collapse. People see someone with more of something and seek parity by whatever means they can. If this is a the ballot box, they'll attempt to vote themselves even with the closest Joneses. The Joneses will then pull away a bit, desiring to enhance their relative status, and the cycle will ratchet up in terms of cost. Eventually, it breaks the bank.

In the US, in a culture as crass and class ambitious as ours, the process is very much accelerated in comparison to the more mature Nordic societies.

2. That's part of it. No doubt. But nowhere near all of it.
Name a "pure democracy" that has ever "collapsed." I pointed to the Nordics because they should be closer to "collapse" than us, having voted themselves more benefits. To your way of thinking, they are "mature" and we are "crass and class ambitious" (? to all of the above) so somehow your theory is that mature pure democracies are slower to collapse than crass ones except that still if they are pure then the collapse is coming inevitably just like the Incas and the Hapsburgs, except those weren't pure democracies so uh, hey, look over there!
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