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Old 08-21-2018, 12:48 PM   #2361
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: icymi above

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
We absolutely do use science to determine that. The basis of the settled argument that certain groups have suffered pervasive bias and attendant disadvantages is rooted in anthropology.
I married an anthropology major, but please -- it's not a science.

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You can't do A without doing B. I mean, you could, but it's incomplete. To assess the reasons for current disadvantages, logically, you have to consider all potential causes. This isn't unique to the issue at hand. This is logically applicable to any discussion of causation of anything. All potential reasons must be considered.
Why? If you are trying a tort case, you don't need to consider the intervention of invisible aliens using technology we can't understand, even though it's a potential cause.

What if you just accept that systemic oppression is evil in part because it enlists its victims in their own degradation? Black policemen sometimes shoot young black men for no good reason. Women blame other women's clothes for sexual assault. And so on. You don't need science to acknowledge that. But you do need to explain why you think it matters.
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