Time to drink your gin-and-tonic-ah

[Replaced_Texan]

go for it

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

go for it

Goodness, I've fallen behind.

Let me just say that I never would have bet that Fugee would be the first to respond about the benefits of waxing. How the world does change -- I remember the olden days, when Fugee thought waxing was for cars, and Adder thought he needed to be nice to everyone.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by ABBAKiss

Okay, I will try to streamline this. Even with the chaotic details you will be provided here I am leaving out a LOT of the drama and ick. Everyone below is in AA and attends the same meetings so is in frequent contact.

McDouche dated NiceGirl about 6 years ago for perhaps 10 months. He cheated on her and treated her like crap. She ended up in counseling over him for years. She eventually moved on, and moved to Louisiana.

ABBAKiss starts going to AA in 2006, while drinking every day for about 4 months. In March 2007, McDouche has a heart to heart with ABBKiss and convinces her to stop drinking. A torrid love affair begins.

Disgusting drama....BABYKiss...blahblahblah

NiceGirl moves back to MN and starts dating NiceHotGuy in 2008. NiceGirl and ABBAKiss become unlikely friends. They are much alike. They hang out, just the two of them and in groups that include NiceHotGuy.

ABBKiss and McDouche have chaos. NiceGirl dumps NiceHotGuy, or he dumps her, or anyway, they break up right before Thanksgiving. NiceHotGuy and ABBAKiss start talking....and hanging out...and McDouche causes a big scene when he finds NiceHotGuy at ABBAKiss's house.

So, anyway, now McDouche is all pissed (good, whatever) for various reasons. But ABBAKiss does not want to upset NiceGirl. She has now essentially taken two of NiceGirl's exes.

ABBAKiss needs to talk to NiceGirl about this. NiceGirl has no idea ABBAKiss and NiceHotGuy are dating.

Ideas on how to approach? And yes, all four of us are in the same meetings together, although this will likely have to change.

BTW, sorry about the third person. How annoying. Ick.

Oh -- and I have been drinking again. Only NiceHotGuy knows this. McDouche would FREAK if he knew.

So, CHAOS!!!!!

First and foremost, you need to find another meeting, and maybe even look into outpatient rehab depending on how bad you think your alcohol problem really is. Obviously, the one you're currently attending isn't working, and McDouche's presence there--not to mention everyone else's--means that you're going to be distracted. Work on your AA stuff in a separate context from all of the other stuff. And you have a really good reason to explain to everyone else: you've cut him out of your life to the extent possible, and you need to be in a different meeting than he is in.

I realize, of course, that this is easier said than done. But then so is all of the really hard stuff in life. You're really awesome at giving great dieting and exercise advice, in order to look great and maintain a healthy lifestyle. Think of separating yourself from this group of people to really work on your alcohol issues as another factor in maintaining a healthy lifestyle.

As for the dramatic incest, are you all actually dating or just sort of hanging out? I'd tread very carefully here. If it looks like just a fling, then maybe she doesn't need to know more than the fact that you guys are hanging out. If it looks like its going to be something bigger, let her know about it. Especially if she's eventually going to find out from someone else, like the newly irritated McDouche.

My particular group of friends can be very incestuous, and it generally doesn't cause any problems but sometimes it's a huge, huge issue where sides are taken, feelings are hurt, and the dynamic changes. No one has any "right" to any other person, but that doesn't mean that dating someone's ex is going to be consequence-free.

I wish you the most happiness through all of this. I think that having a good friend who you can share experiences with and can trust to understand you is really important. I also think that a good healthy relationship can be awesome. And I hope that you can have both.

[Fugee]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

Goodness, I've fallen behind.

Let me just say that I never would have bet that Fugee would be the first to respond about the benefits of waxing. How the world does change -- I remember the olden days, when Fugee thought waxing was for cars, and Adder thought he needed to be nice to everyone.

On the contrary, I had to wax back when I lived in NYC. The shower in my second apartment was so small I couldn't bend over to shave -- I even had to scrunch my elbows in to wash my hair.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Fugee

On the contrary, I had to wax back when I lived in NYC. The shower in my second apartment was so small I couldn't bend over to shave -- I even had to scrunch my elbows in to wash my hair.

File this under "unanticipated brutalizing effects of urbanization."

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Fugee

On the contrary, I had to wax back when I lived in NYC. The shower in my second apartment was so small I couldn't bend over to shave -- I even had to scrunch my elbows in to wash my hair.

you could wash though? I don't get how you couldn't shave but could wash. Could you masturbate in the shower?

[Fugee]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

you could wash though? I don't get how you couldn't shave but could wash. Could you masturbate in the shower?

I wanted to be able to see what I was shaving so bending over was required. Not necessary for washing.

[evenodds]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

you could wash though? I don't get how you couldn't shave but could wash. Could you masturbate in the shower?

Shaving in the shower takes up space. This weekend, my girlfriends were discussing how dance allows one to shave one's legs in attitude, which could never be accomplished in a tiny NYC shower (or without a really good sense of balance).

[ABBAKiss]

Originally Posted by evenodds

shave one's legs in attitude

Is this like sex like burning? I have nothing more to ass.

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by evenodds

Shaving in the shower takes up space. .

Indeed. I am considering seeing a sugarer....sugarist(?).....thoughts?

[LessinSF]

Speaking of gin and tonic-aaaahs. Tomorrow here in SF. I got my suit in the mail last week.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Speaking of gin and tonic-aaaahs. Tomorrow here in SF. I got my suit in the mail last week.

Hipsters are the biggest posers and have no personal identity or originallity. Trying to act like other people, trying to act all cool and nun plussed all the time is extremeley lame and as uncool as it gets. All that posing must be exhausting.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Hipsters are the biggest posers and have no personal identity or originallity. Trying to act like other people, trying to act all cool and nun plussed all the time is extremeley lame and as uncool as it gets. All that posing must be exhausting.

Yeah, getting beaten by the Carmelites is a terrible fate.

[cheval de frise]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

Yeah, getting beaten by the Carmelites is a terrible fate.

I thought nun plussed just meant nuns with benefits. But the narrower sub/dom category works too.

Just keep a weather eye out for her whimple.

CDF

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Hipsters are the biggest posers and have no personal identity or originallity. Trying to act like other people, trying to act all cool and nun plussed all the time is extremeley lame and as uncool as it gets. All that posing must be exhausting.

Oh GREAT, just what little kids need to see. Well done LOSERS. You are all sheep follwing a shephard. Just like critical mass, on your own you are goody two-shoes, but together you are big bad toughies. Bunch of weeners!