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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Maher and Harris said all religions are nonsense. The sole unique thing they said about Islam is that it is the religion causing the most violence of all religions today. They have repeatedly said that, if they were writing 200 years ago, they would say the same thing about Christianity.

Christianity was the most violent religion of the period from 1400 to the 20th century. Do you have a problem with me saying that? Does that make me bigoted toward Christians?

Islam has been the religion responsible for the most violence of any religion from 1980 to present. That is simply a fact.

If you wish to debate how US foreign policy was involved in that, we can have that discussion. But that's a different issue.

It's not a waste of time at all. You are generalizing, and it is dangerous. And yes, Trumpian.

So here are a few generalizations for you to think about among all those others. The two largest groups of immigrants from the MENA region are Lebanese and Iranians.

Both groups are generally among the most peaceful, well educated, and wealthy immigrant groups to the US. With one exception, no Lebanese, Iranian or Lebanese-American or Iranian-American has ever been involved in a deadly terrorist attack in the United States. The one and important exception is a single Lebanese participant in the 9/11 attacks. So Lebanese must be more threatening than Iranians, right, even though most Lebanese in the US are Christian, right?

It is not hard to make a case that many other immigrant communities commit more violence in the US, are less educated, and came in with less wealth. Certainly, based on the statistics, the case could be made (and in the past has been made, by the bigots of different ages) for Russians, Sicilians (hi Hank!), Cubans, Irish, Vietnamese...

But why is Iran the only one of these countries today whose people are barred from the US? What animosity drives that and who drives that animosity (Hi Maher and Harris!)? What leads people screaming about Muslims and Arabs to be so frightened of Iranians? Looked at objectively, Iranian immigrants mostly want to come to the US and provide us healthcare - what is it that leads them instead to be cast as a bunch of violent religious fanatics who want to kill us?