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Old 07-22-2019, 04:38 PM   #11
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Re: Franken Revisted

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Yeah, that's pretty bad, in that it goes into great lengths about exactly one of the accusations and dismisses the rest with generalities about Al coupled with the admission that he can be physically awkward. As if it's okay to grope someone if you're just a bit strange as long as other people think you're not getting off on it.
I find it amazing that after the detailed account of what actually took place when it comes to the main accusation, that you simply dismiss this article. It seems clear to me that this woman became a Republican operative, had a photo that she could use, figured out how to use it with the help of Conservative news dipshits, and did so.

As for all the other accusations, I thought they dug as far as they could possibly go given the nature of the claims (some even being anonymous). One woman said he held her around the waist while she had her arm around him for a photo--what the fuck?

The article was an attempt to fill in some of the blanks that the rush to judgment steamrolled over--to provide context that no one was trying to hear at the time. But whatever. It has become clear that your mind has been made up on this and that's that.

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Even the premise examination of the of the one accusation actually looked at is pretty flawed. Apparently none of it matters if she had questionable motivations, presented her complaint in a not entirely forthright manner and consented to similar contact during the performance.
This is fucking bullshit. You were provided with the whole context of the performance, she lied about that context, and it seems very clear he never touched her when it came to that photo. You are ignoring the evidence because you want to be right about this.

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Meanwhile, the fact that Al was replaced by a competent and well-liked Dem who easily won reelection and that he would have been a giant distraction on all kinds of fronts had he not resigned are not mentioned.
That's because whether or not his successor is a good senator is not what this article is about in the slightest.

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But sure. The Gov and Lt in Virginia have demonstrated that you can ride these things out and Al maybe could have kept being a Senator. That's not a thing that anyone who isn't Al should value.
Jesus fucking Christ, man. Franken was denied due process and forced out of his seat as a Senator. I am all for taking these types of allegations seriously. There is no question about that. Franken was too. But denying someone due process and forcing them out is not taking the allegation seriously. It's pure political bullshit (which, based on what you've said about his replacement is apparently all that matters to you).

And as Gillibrand decided to use this to build her own brand, she helped kick him out the fucking door while she introduced his bill and took credit for it? That's some dirty shit.

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