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		|  02-09-2015, 05:36 PM | #1951 |  
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  You transactional folks are ADORABLE with your war stories. |  Look, Grinch, getting called to the whiteboard by Silverman is right up in the tax world with getting a belly-laugh from Teller in the world of comedy.  Look on his works and despair!
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  You transactional folks are ADORABLE with your war stories. |  Yes, Mr. Gubmint lawyer. Please regale us with yet another story of the zoning wars.
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					Originally Posted by taxwonk  Yes, Mr. Gubmint lawyer. Please regale us with yet another story of the zoning wars. |  Did I ever tell you about the deal I did where the entire negotiations took place in a room in the Explorer's Club in New York in the shadow of an 8 foot whale penis?
 
Yeah, let's see if the Gubmint lawyer has a zoning story like that!
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  Did I ever tell you about the deal I did where the entire negotiations took place in a room in the Explorer's Club in New York in the shadow of an 8 foot whale penis?
 Yeah, let's see if the Gubmint lawyer has a zoning story like that!
 |  Pretty sure he told me about one of his cases where opposing counsel was a walking, talking, six-foot penis.  No wait -- that was when I was a litigator.
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  Pretty sure he told me about one of his cases where opposing counsel was a walking, talking, six-foot penis.  No wait -- that was when I was a litigator. |  RT has successfully taught us that calling someone a vagina (pussy) can hardly be a slur. Why do you persist in making the male organ an insult?
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  RT has successfully taught us that calling someone a vagina (pussy) can hardly be a slur. Why do you persist in making the male organ an insult? |  Thank you for trying to make me a better person.
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop   |  I'm shocked. That a man who was elected President could get there by using dishonesty and posturing. I feel so disillusioned.
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop   |  "And people die-- errr, uh... wound up with a President who helped create conditions which allowed people discriminated against to get married!"
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski   |  "For some, like Ms. Pineman, narrow networks can necessitate footing bills privately."  Um, what?  She didn't want to drive 14 miles to see a doctor so she was forced to foot bills privately?  If someone said that was a problem Obamacare was trying to fix, they'd be Chinaskied out of the room.
 
Whole thing sounds like an argument for single payer.  That would be less complex.
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  "For some, like Ms. Pineman, narrow networks can necessitate footing bills privately."  Um, what?  She didn't want to drive 14 miles to see a doctor so she was forced to foot bills privately?  If someone said that was a problem Obamacare was trying to fix, they'd be Chinaskied out of the room.
 Whole thing sounds like an argument for single payer.  That would be less complex.
 |  Do you think people in the city can get to all parts of Ct? And was that the only problem raised in the article? It seemed too long for that to be it all.
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  Whole thing sounds like an argument for single payer.  That would be less complex. |  This comment applies universally to all health care discussions.
 
I had the same thought about 14 miles, but she's from Manhattan, no? Stamford may actually be an unreasonable distance away, especially if she does not have a car. |  
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					Originally Posted by Adder  This comment applies universally to all health care discussions.
 I had the same thought about 14 miles, but she's from Manhattan, no? Stamford may actually be an unreasonable distance away, especially if she does not have a car.
 |  Yes, Stamford may be highly inconvenient. And I am completely shocked - Shocked I tell you! -  that Obamacare has not eliminated bureaucracy in health insurance companies.  
 
There were amble horror stories before ACA as well as after.  About a year ago, I was lying in a hospital totally out of it while my wife argued against an insurance company denial of a drug that would likely save my life.  The appeals process was longer (3-4 day minimum) than my anticipated life without the drug (hours). I am sure there is a way to blame that process on ACA - I am sure I could figure out two or three ways to spin it -- but, guess what, to the extent ACA had anything to do with it increased the chance of me getting the drug (because it eliminated lifetime caps).
 
But let's not make system-wide health care decisions based on convenience or inconvenience.  Let's make it based on life and death needs.
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  Yes, Stamford may be highly inconvenient. And I am completely shocked - Shocked I tell you! -  that Obamacare has not eliminated bureaucracy in health insurance companies.  
 There were amble horror stories before ACA as well as after.  About a year ago, I was lying in a hospital totally out of it while my wife argued against an insurance company denial of a drug that would likely save my life.  The appeals process was longer (3-4 day minimum) than my anticipated life without the drug (hours). I am sure there is a way to blame that process on ACA - I am sure I could figure out two or three ways to spin it -- but, guess what, to the extent ACA had anything to do with it increased the chance of me getting the drug (because it eliminated lifetime caps).
 
 But let's not make system-wide health care decisions based on convenience or inconvenience.  Let's make it based on life and death needs.
 |  people who had insurance have worse now, as I predicted. 
 
my daughter just turned 26. she is very broke. the health care she got, as a broke person, comes with a $3000 deductible. How is that possible? That is (other than my checkbook) practically the same as having no insurance. I hope really poor people are covered w/o deductible, because if you wrecked the system for most and didn't even really help the truly poor that is fucked up.
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