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		|  01-03-2018, 11:45 AM | #3601 |  
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				Re: May You All Enjoy Your End Times!
			 
 
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					Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower   |  Not to downplay the threat of nuclear war or anything, but Trump is a coward who does not seem to be particularly interested in going to war with anyone, or rather anyone who might punch back. He is more likely to get us into conflicts by letting the military escalate over time, as they have in the Middle East and Africa.
This is an excellent way of understanding what he is up to , with Norea Korea (which is really more of a pro-wrestling relationship with Kim personally, who makes an excellent villain) and more generally.
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		|  01-03-2018, 02:32 PM | #3602 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  Not to downplay the threat of nuclear war or anything, but Trump is a coward who does not seem to be particularly interested in going to war with anyone, or rather anyone who might punch back. He is more likely to get us into conflicts by letting the military escalate over time, as they have in the Middle East and Africa.This is an excellent way of understanding what he is up to , with Norea Korea (which is really more of a pro-wrestling relationship with Kim personally, who makes an excellent villain) and more generally. |  2.  They’re a perfectly matched... match.
 
Foreign policy has always been about pretending things, about pretexts, and face saving cover-up narratives.  About avoidance of zero sum scenarios risking unacceptable mutually assured damage.  This is just a Vince McMahon version of it, no?
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		|  01-03-2018, 02:50 PM | #3603 |  
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				Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
			 
 The Bannon Trump war is highly entertaining for someone who loathes both.  May the knives of both strike true.
 Somehow or another, I'm sure it'll end up fucking over something I hold dear, though.
 
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		|  01-03-2018, 03:09 PM | #3604 |  
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				Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
			 
 
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					Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan  The Bannon Trump war is highly entertaining for someone who loathes both.  May the knives of both strike true. |  One Man Leaves!
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		|  01-03-2018, 03:22 PM | #3605 |  
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				Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
			 
 
	from the Wolff bookQuote: 
	
		| On December 14, a high-level delegation from Silicon Valley came to Trump Tower to meet him. Later that afternoon, according to a source privy to details of the conversation, Trump called Rupert Murdoch, who asked him how the meeting had gone. 
 “Oh, great, just great,” said Trump. “These guys really need my help. Obama was not very favorable to them, too much regulation. This is really an opportunity for me to help them.”
 
 “Donald,” said Murdoch, “for eight years these guys had Obama in their pocket. They practically ran the administration. They don’t need your help.”
 
 “Take this H-1B visa issue. They really need these H-1B visas.”
 
 Murdoch suggested that taking a liberal approach to H-1B visas, which open America’s doors to select immigrants, might be hard to square with his promises to build a wall and close the borders. But Trump seemed unconcerned, assuring Murdoch, “We’ll figure it out.”
 
 “What a fucking idiot,” said Murdoch, shrugging, as he got off the phone.
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		|  01-03-2018, 04:24 PM | #3606 |  
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				Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
			 
 Hot take: Manafort's suit isn't a legal argument, but an effort to prompt Trump to fire Rosenstein and Mueller. 
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		|  01-04-2018, 09:24 AM | #3607 |  
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				Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
			 
 The book excerpts are pretty entertaining, but the best part is how both the Trump and Bannon camps are pretty much acting like it's all true. 
 I bet that book sells more copies than What Happened, and hopefully Trump won't start a war to distract from it, but keeps on claiming he's responsible for aircraft safety or that he invented the question mark.
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		|  01-04-2018, 10:45 AM | #3608 |  
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					Originally Posted by SEC_Chick  The book excerpts are pretty entertaining, but the best part is how both the Trump and Bannon camps are pretty much acting like it's all true. 
 I bet that book sells more copies than What Happened, and hopefully Trump won't start a war to distract from it, but keeps on claiming he's responsible for aircraft safety or that he invented the question mark.
 |  I hate being caught between equally compelling analogies.  "Digging the hole deeper"?  Or, "Falling into an obvious trap"?
 
Either way, moronic: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump...ry?id=52134956
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		|  01-04-2018, 12:03 PM | #3609 |  
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					Originally Posted by SEC_Chick  The book excerpts are pretty entertaining, but the best part is how both the Trump and Bannon camps are pretty much acting like it's all true. |  So much of Trump's statement about Bannon is obviously projection. “Steve pretends to be at war with the media, which he calls the opposition party, yet he spent his time at the White House leaking false information to the media to make himself seem far more important than he was. It is the only thing he does well.” Um, yup.
 
I would like to see a Trump supporter read this and explain it away.
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		|  01-04-2018, 01:47 PM | #3610 |  
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				Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
			 
 
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  So much of Trump's statement about Bannon is obviously projection. “Steve pretends to be at war with the media, which he calls the opposition party, yet he spent his time at the White House leaking false information to the media to make himself seem far more important than he was. It is the only thing he does well.” Um, yup.
 I would like to see a Trump supporter read this and explain it away.
 |  I think it's pretty clear by now that analysis and critical thinking are not really part of the day-to-day when it comes to Trump supporters.
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		|  01-04-2018, 02:29 PM | #3611 |  
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				Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
			 
 Most interesting thing I've read about Trump today is John Judis's suggestion that part of the reason he seems ill-informed, listens so little, and talks so much is that he has a hearing problem and is too vain to deal with it by getting a hearing aid. Makes a lot of sense. 
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		|  01-04-2018, 03:55 PM | #3612 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  Most interesting thing I've read about Trump today is John Judis's suggestion that part of the reason he seems ill-informed, listens so little, and talks so much is that he has a hearing problem and is too vain to deal with it by getting a hearing aid. Makes a lot of sense. |  Both my father and father-in-law are under the impression that they can hear when they can't really.  Neither is remotely like Trump in terms of information retention, attempt to listen, though both like to talk.  They both also read. A lot.   The "barely literate narcissist" theory makes much more sense.
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		|  01-04-2018, 04:13 PM | #3613 |  
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					Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan  Both my father and father-in-law are under the impression that they can hear when they can't really.  Neither is remotely like Trump in terms of information retention, attempt to listen, though both like to talk.  They both also read. A lot.   The "barely literate narcissist" theory makes much more sense. |  Barely literate narcissist with dementia.
 
Although I wouldn't be surprised about learning that any particular part of his body doesn't function. |  
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		|  01-04-2018, 04:35 PM | #3614 |  
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					Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan  Both my father and father-in-law are under the impression that they can hear when they can't really.  Neither is remotely like Trump in terms of information retention, attempt to listen, though both like to talk.  They both also read. A lot.   The "barely literate narcissist" theory makes much more sense. |  Why not both?
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		|  01-04-2018, 05:13 PM | #3615 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  Why not both? |  My experience with older folks with trouble hearing is that they develop a lot of compensating tools, whether it is reading more text or trying to lip read or having people repeat themselves. It may be the hearing issue exacerbates the other issues, but those issues are what's at the root of his problems.
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