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Old 11-09-2018, 11:38 AM   #11
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Re: Color-blind Nationalist

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What I said is entirely logical. The reason TM and I talk past each other is that we define concepts differently. I do not agree with the definition of racism having nothing to do with intent. He then says I do not know what I’m talking about. That is incorrect. He is not in possession of the final definition of racism. He may say he is all he likes, but all he will be in possession of is an emerging definition of it that competes with past intent-based definitions of it.
This paragraph proves you're not listening--or maybe you're just incapable of hearing what you don't want to hear. Either way, I'm not explaining this shit to you again.

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Unsurprisingly, using his definition, any comment that does not agree almost 100% with what he says he deems invalid and illogical. And then the clown car of pile-on comments pulls up and dumps a bunch of crap on the board.
More bullshit.

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And the truly crazy thing is I often agree with him. Where he tends to become frustrated is, as he noted, where I talk around the issue, at the periphery. It’s mere intellectual curiosity on my part.
You are so consumed with yourself that you don't even see that you are uninterested in anything but your own take. Your responses never address the substance of what I'm saying. It's always just how you'd like to see it. I've worked in diversity for 20 years and lived it my whole life. I'm not saying your opinions aren't valid. I point out when they are ignorant and wrong. You then plug your ears and repeat yourself. If that's how you want to approach it, there ain't no stopping you. But stop jerking yourself off by thinking you have any level of intellectual curiosity when it comes to this topic.

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The argument that racism has no element of intent, and that to focus on intent undermines serious discussion of racism, is not axiomatic.
No one has ever said this. If that's what you're taking from this discussion, you are a moron.

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I’ll read the recommended book. But like any book, I very much doubt I’ll buy all of it. It’ll enlighten me, I’m sure. But it won’t stop me from questioning. The reason for that simple: Nothing is beyond critique. And telling me I’m ducking an issue while I’m talking about it with you isn’t proving otherwise.
More strawmen. Yeah, the goal is to get you to stop questioning. How you set these issues up in your head is so fucking weird.

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