We are all Slave now.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Yes she is the flavor, but she is gaining clout? What you list is the same as Maxine Waters, yes? Not dogging on her just asking if she is seeing any real movement.

Good point. She's been in office for a week now. Has she passed any major legislation yet, or is she all talk and no action?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Good point. She's been in office for a week now. Has she passed any major legislation yet, or is she all talk and no action?

I know you aren’t stupid so maybe you are drunk? You do understand I was replying to a post saying she is it? Embarrass yourself much?

Ps still sober enough to avoid the anti Semitic third rail!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I know you aren’t stupid so maybe you are drunk? You do understand I was replying to a post saying she is it? Embarrass yourself much?

Ps still sober enough to avoid the anti Semitic third rail!

Just having a laugh. Carry on.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Yes she is the flavor, but she is gaining clout? What you list is the same as Maxine Waters, yes? Not dogging on her just asking if she is seeing any real movement.


And a kibbutz? Really? The new dems hate Israel don’t they?

If you read the (admittedly long) article on the Green New Deal, you'll see that she managed to bring the issue much further along to Dem leadership than anyone working in that arena thought possible before she was even in office.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

How many Republican Senators got Russian money laundered through the NRA in 2016?

Did any not?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

*I love how the kids are using “thirsty” these** days.

And by "these days," you mean 2005?

TM

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Yes she is the flavor, but she is gaining clout? What you list is the same as Maxine Waters, yes? Not dogging on her just asking if she is seeing any real movement.


And a kibbutz? Really? The new dems hate Israel don’t they?

I suppose it’s still early, but I think she is. She pushed for reinstatement of the climate change committee, and while Speaker Pelosi didn’t give the committee all the power (subpoenas maybe? IDR) that AOC wanted it to have (and didn’t put her on) she was able to push through a requirement that the members would not take campaign cash from fossil fuel companies. My* middle of the road yet mostly environmentalist representative was appointed (and gave up her ExxonMobil money) and has been praising the Green Deal.

The kibbutz comment was directed at the GOPers who apparently think that being the only definition of socialism is “Venezuela.” (And while I don’t speak for the oamost Democrats aren’t anti-Israel so much as anti-Bibi. Much like, oh, 47 or so percent of Israelis.)

*By “my” I meant the member for Podunkville itself (where my office is). The congressdude where I live is an amiable former PI lawyer whose most significant legislative accomplishment is having the best tan in the post-Boehner House of Representatives.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

And by "these days," you mean 2005?

TM

Uh, I guess that I should have posted this after all.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

If you read the (admittedly long) article on the Green New Deal, you'll see that she managed to bring the issue much further along to Dem leadership than anyone working in that arena thought possible before she was even in office.

I think it will be beyond the Establishment Ds’ ability to squash or geld the GND if AOC and her allies get it into the D Party platform for 2020.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Good point. She's been in office for a week now. Has she passed any major legislation yet, or is she all talk and no action?

She can do far more good as a media personality. Leave allies to write the bills. Let her be the face of them.

The demand she hunker down is just a ploy to drag her away from her pedestal by Ds and Rs who want her messages removed from the media cycle.

She should keep taking and doing appearances. Delegate the grunt work to the scriveners and policy wonks. AOC is smart enough to talk up the broad points from executive summaries.

She’s green but incredibly savvy, and as Trump has proven it’s largely about the cult of personality. She works media like a rock star. Let her be one.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

Have you looked at all at the Green New Deal? I have problems with parts of it, but I think it's actually something geared towards what you are talking about.

I think that AOC and new colleagues are approaching things VASTLY differently than their predecessors. And people are listening.

Tax the fucking rich. F. T. W.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

She’s green but incredibly savvy, and as Trump has proven it’s largely about the cult of personality. She works media like a rock star. Let her be one.

If we've learned anything in the last ten years, it's that we need Presidents who are larger than life figures, Presidents who will solve all of our problems without the messy process of negotiation and building consensus and policy and the law and all of that other shit no one wants to think about. Find the personality, form your cult, and Bob's your uncle.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

TM

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

TM

Where are the squares for Charles Murray "Whites are inherently smarter than blacks" and the "I don't see why rich black kids should have preference in college admissions"....

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Why is Labour calling a no-confidence vote if they don't think they'll win it?