Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Are you asking a serious question or being Hank? Because I honestly can't tell if this is serious.

TM

Look, I'm head in the sand- I don't know what all he did with Russia- other than they met with Russia and asked for (or were offered) help- if the help isn't illegal what is the difference from just asking for help from another gov? Did Trump et al sign on to Russia hacking the Dems?

I do know this- a shit ton of people are of the mind set that Trump got elected because Russia interfered, but if you ask what exactly Russia did they don't know. And what I think Russia did is convince people like them (maybe actually some of them) that voting for Hil would be a waste. That is, people posting about how stupid Trump supporters are don't realize educated Dems were the ones fooled.

I'm not weighing voting for Trump- Hitler could run against him and I'd vote for Hitler, thinking maybe he's at least grown over the years. But I want to know facts, and i don't.

And in this whole shit storm the thing that everyone has to do is learn to distinguish FaceBook memes from facts- cuz FB memes gave us Prez Trump it seems.

Early on in Trump's time a FB meme started up "Ivanka granted Chinese Trademarks, Trump grants China something or other." And when people I know
posted it, I'd say, "you know, Trump is evil and I would not put it past him to sell us out, but this isn't it. If you give me $1500 I'll get you a Chinese Trademark. They hand them out, they aren't enforceable, but I can get you one. Keep focus on the actual bad things and dismiss this one." But no one wanted to hear it. They all knew Trump was selling us out.

If thinking people dismiss a Trademark attorney, whom they know hates Trump, telling them this, what will make them think about the shit thrown in 2020? We need people, as many as possible, to question.

I do not really know what all the report said Trump agreed to- if it was just asking Russia to fuck with Hil on social media- and that is somehow actionable, please tell us how, cuz Sebby keeps asking that. And asking Russia to help fuck with Hil on social media, while nasty, doesn't seem different than asking Israel's PM to write a letter supporting em. On the other hand, if Trump asked for a different level of "help" can someone let me know?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I do not really know what all the report said Trump agreed to- if it was just asking Russia to fuck with Hil on social media- and that is somehow actionable, please tell us how, cuz Sebby keeps asking that. And asking Russia to help fuck with Hil on social media, while nasty, doesn't seem different than asking Israel's PM to write a letter supporting em. On the other hand, if Trump asked for a different level of "help" can someone let me know?

Trump won the game legally by engaging in the mother of all hacks. He worked indirectly with a foreign adversary and, legally, he won.

That burns the shit out of people. Understandably. They want it to be illegal, to be disqualifying, to somehow be different from the sleaze the Clintons themselves engaged in while running.

Politicians do these things. And worse. The only difference is this one does it openly.

Only a group of lawyers would find this offensive. From a business perspective, it’s just like Uber’s model — ask forgiveness later rather than permission before, and assume the price of bending the law to what you desire a cost of doing business.

Trump’s simply post-law. He just doesn’t understand that. Dumb fuck stumbled into it.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Look, I'm head in the sand- I don't know what all he did with Russia- other than they met with Russia and asked for (or were offered) help- if the help isn't illegal what is the difference from just asking for help from another gov? Did Trump et al sign on to Russia hacking the Dems?

I do know this- a shit ton of people are of the mind set that Trump got elected because Russia interfered, but if you ask what exactly Russia did they don't know. And what I think Russia did is convince people like them (maybe actually some of them) that voting for Hil would be a waste. That is, people posting about how stupid Trump supporters are don't realize educated Dems were the ones fooled.

I'm not weighing voting for Trump- Hitler could run against him and I'd vote for Hitler, thinking maybe he's at least grown over the years. But I want to know facts, and i don't.

And in this whole shit storm the thing that everyone has to do is learn to distinguish FaceBook memes from facts- cuz FB memes gave us Prez Trump it seems.

Early on in Trump's time a FB meme started up "Ivanka granted Chinese Trademarks, Trump grants China something or other." And when people I know
posted it, I'd say, "you know, Trump is evil and I would not put it past him to sell us out, but this isn't it. If you give me $1500 I'll get you a Chinese Trademark. They hand them out, they aren't enforceable, but I can get you one. Keep focus on the actual bad things and dismiss this one." But no one wanted to hear it. They all knew Trump was selling us out.

If thinking people dismiss a Trademark attorney, whom they know hates Trump, telling them this, what will make them think about the shit thrown in 2020? We need people, as many as possible, to question.

I do not really know what all the report said Trump agreed to- if it was just asking Russia to fuck with Hil on social media- and that is somehow actionable, please tell us how, cuz Sebby keeps asking that. And asking Russia to help fuck with Hil on social media, while nasty, doesn't seem different than asking Israel's PM to write a letter supporting em. On the other hand, if Trump asked for a different level of "help" can someone let me know?

You are blurring the line between the general ignorance of the US voting public and yourself. But I'm not going to explain to you what you can easily read for yourself.

TM