Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

[ThurgreedMarshall]

This asshole deserves to be molested to fucking death. What a piece of shit.

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

This asshole deserves to be molested to fucking death. What a piece of shit.

TM

Wondering where he plays well, if anywhere. Sebby, does he work for you?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Wondering where he plays well, if anywhere. Sebby, does he work for you?

Haven’t watched. Been on phone since Tuesday. Any Perry Mason moments?

ETA: From what I’ve read, Jordan and Nunes are just throwing rocks, and one comment Jordan made re questioning the “person who started it all” got shoved up his ass pretty effectively by D congressman. That’s a bad soundbite for Jordan. But that kind of theatre probably does help Rs. Makes it all look like political squabbling. If you want people to take this seriously enough to create adequate pressure on R senators, Schiff needs to stop making opening statements and Jordan and Nunes need to be ignored enough that the media won’t focus on their cheapening of the process.

Hockey thugs play a role in the game. Nunes and Jordan can be effective in debasing entire process here. But my suspicion is they could take it too far and wind up creating a damning soundbite in which a witness clocks them with a Joseph Welch-like mic drop reply.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Hey GGG (or anyone else): any intel on Deval Patrick? Can't say I know anything about him...

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone

Hey GGG (or anyone else): any intel on Deval Patrick? Can't say I know anything about him...

I would describe him as very capable and managerial in his style and progressive but incrementalist in his policies. Dukakis but not as fun as Dukakis.

I had thought he had passed over the race because he felt he needed more backing from Obama. He and Obama go way back together - they have a personal relationship, not just a political one. And remember, here in Massachusetts Liz Warren was really completely an Obama creation in politics - she was an academic with no local political history and Obama cleared the field for her Senate run because he wanted her in the Senate. So the local Obama team here has pretty much been all Warren in this election.

My understanding is he's got some significant financial backing for the run. But let's face it, he should have gotten in 6 to 12 months ago, and many, many people who might have supported him have long since been committed elsewhere.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

My understanding is he's got some significant financial backing for the run. But let's face it, he should have gotten in 6 to 12 months ago, and many, many people who might have supported him have long since been committed elsewhere.

I'm guessing he wants VP or a cabinet position and is signaling to Biden that he can help him with Massachusetts and the black vote generally better than Abrams.

TM

[Adder]

This thread on the prosecutor's closing argument in the Roger Stone trial is worth reading, especially the bit where Stone calls candidate Trump while in a car with Gates, Trump hands up and reports that there is more hacked information coming.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I'm guessing he wants VP or a cabinet position and is signaling to Biden that he can help him with Massachusetts and the black vote generally better than Abrams.

TM

Maybe. I think he'd be an excellent VP choice. And a fine choice for any of several cabinet positions.

Ain't nobody going to help Biden with Massachusetts. Given the jump Warren has, and the Bernie-or-bust support in some quarters, it will be a challenge for Biden to even place in Massachusetts with Patrick in the race.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I'm guessing he wants VP or a cabinet position and is signaling to Biden that he can help him with Massachusetts and the black vote generally better than Abrams.

TM

I went through and edited for you.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I would describe him as very capable and managerial in his style and progressive but incrementalist in his policies. Dukakis but not as fun as Dukakis.

I had thought he had passed over the race because he felt he needed more backing from Obama. He and Obama go way back together - they have a personal relationship, not just a political one. And remember, here in Massachusetts Liz Warren was really completely an Obama creation in politics - she was an academic with no local political history and Obama cleared the field for her Senate run because he wanted her in the Senate. So the local Obama team here has pretty much been all Warren in this election.

My understanding is he's got some significant financial backing for the run. But let's face it, he should have gotten in 6 to 12 months ago, and many, many people who might have supported him have long since been committed elsewhere.

He's a male Kamala Harris. Too corporate, measured, and careful.

I don't know how Pete's getting away with it. He's an ex-McKinsey guy whose platform is Clinton Democrat. He should have gone down alongside Harris, but is somehow out-raising everyone.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Haven’t watched. Been on phone since Tuesday. Any Perry Mason moments?

ETA: From what I’ve read, Jordan and Nunes are just throwing rocks, and one comment Jordan made re questioning the “person who started it all” got shoved up his ass pretty effectively by D congressman. That’s a bad soundbite for Jordan. But that kind of theatre probably does help Rs. Makes it all look like political squabbling. If you want people to take this seriously enough to create adequate pressure on R senators, Schiff needs to stop making opening statements and Jordan and Nunes need to be ignored enough that the media won’t focus on their cheapening of the process.

Hockey thugs play a role in the game. Nunes and Jordan can be effective in debasing entire process here. But my suspicion is they could take it too far and wind up creating a damning soundbite in which a witness clocks them with a Joseph Welch-like mic drop reply.

I was trying to ask about his personality.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I was trying to ask about his personality.

My reasons to go to Ohio: 0.00000.

I am not familiar with the man’s catalog. Or even his greatest hits. And you’re asking me about his personality? How would I know?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

My reasons to go to Ohio: 0.00000.

I am not familiar with the man’s catalog. Or even his greatest hits. And you’re asking me about his personality? How would I know?

You're more informed than most about national politics, and he is a prominent Congressman.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

You're more informed than most about national politics, and he is a prominent Congressman.

I’m more macro in my focus. He strikes me as a thug, as I stated.

I also don’t think one can assess a personality from this hearing. This is all theater. Ds are trying to get a huge moment that sways public opinion, Rs are trying to debase the whole thing. There isn’t a thimble’s worth of genuineness in the room.

This is kind of the problem with politics in an age where everyone is on camera 24/7 and anything can become a meme immediately. Everyone’s an actor at all times.

It’s just hard to watch without snickering and thinking royalists kinda had a point.