Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Agreed. But depending on whether you're in notice or fact pleading jurisdictions, complaints can include legal arguments similar to those one sees in briefs.

Yes, but I don't think there's any shame in copying those. You can copy the language in a brief, too, but you should use quotation marks to show that the words are someone else's, and if you don't do that then you are hiding that fact.

He strikes me as a very annoyed judge. I don't think he likes his job very much.

Also, Flynn's new legal team is a bunch of scorched earth psychos. Sullivan may be sending a message: "You're doing your client no favors."

I think the two are related. Flynn pleaded guilty and then started making a bunch of silly arguments to try to get out of it. Sullivan ripped him a new one for the original crime, and can't be happy to be wasting his time on the more recent stupidity.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Yes, but I don't think there's any shame in copying those. You can copy the language in a brief, too, but you should use quotation marks to show that the words are someone else's, and if you don't do that then you are hiding that fact.



I think the two are related. Flynn pleaded guilty and then started making a bunch of silly arguments to try to get out of it. Sullivan ripped him a new one for the original crime, and can't be happy to be wasting his time on the more recent stupidity.

One can also simply rewrite the argument. I avoid briefing as much as possible, but where its necessary, if I find a chunk of text in a brief that makes my argument, I'll usually want to bend it to my writing style anyway, so it'll be changed. I also hate string cites, so I'll usually yank a bunch of those. If you're just lifting straightaway, you're a lazy ass. (Sorry, Hank.)

I've only had one client try to undo a plea. It worked out very badly for that person. Flynn's counsel seem to be doing him a disservice along the lines of that being done to Lori Loughlin by her lawyers.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

One can also simply rewrite the argument. I avoid briefing as much as possible, but where its necessary, if I find a chunk of text in a brief that makes my argument, I'll usually want to bend it to my writing style anyway, so it'll be changed. I also hate string cites, so I'll usually yank a bunch of those. If you're just lifting straightaway, you're a lazy ass. (Sorry, Hank.)

I've only had one client try to undo a plea. It worked out very badly for that person. Flynn's counsel seem to be doing him a disservice along the lines of that being done to Lori Loughlin by her lawyers.

Seems like Flynn is playing for a pardon.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Seems like Flynn is playing for a pardon.

But Sullivan already extended the sentencing date. Now he’s just made the judge work, which is a violation of the first rule of Defendant Club.