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Spanky · 08-09-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Not every unpopular position is courageous. When Lieberman initially staked out his position supporting the President and the war, it was anything but courageous. He was swimming with a very strong tide behind him. When the tide changed, he got pulled out to sea. That's willfulness and shortsightedness, not courage.

He got trounced when he ran for President in 2004. But even after that he stuck to his guns. Courageous. You just don't like the idea of a Democrat supporting the war.

Sidd Finch · 08-09-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
A yut who would other wise have no chance in hell if it weren't for Liebermann. The only way this guy could possibly win is if the loser of the Democrat primary stayed in the race - and that is what has happened.

For now. We'll see if Lieberman remains as stubborn as Ralph Nader after he's had a few weeks to think about it. He's going to face a lot of pressure from party heavyweights,* and some financial pressure as well.

*I will add: figuratively and literally. Because otherwise Penske will post more stupid pictures of Ted Kennedy or Bill Clinton sunbathing. Though he probably still will, of course.

Penske_Account · 08-09-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
With whose soldiers?

I realize that Bush and Rummy have demonstrated to everyone that the US military under their leadership is invincible.

But it is also very busy at the moment. Please try back in six da...wee....mon...years. Maybe.

I don't know, how many soldiers does it take to fly the planes to drop the bunker busting bombs and/or tactical nukes to take out their nuclear capability and as much of their military apparatus as bombing can take out?

I am guessing we can scrape up the number, or if not, we untether Israel as our proxy.

SlaveNoMore · 08-09-2006, 04:18 PM

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Tyrone Slothrop
Maybe he is opposed to obesity, America-hating and child molestation, in which case he should not be helping the GOP, the party of obesity

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America hating...

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....and child molestation

SlaveNoMore · 08-09-2006, 04:19 PM

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Sidd Finch
How many people can you identify who have run in a primary against an incumbent Senator without financing most of their own campaign?

So why does the MSM insist on calling this some Grassroots victory - when, as you note, its just another in a long line of vanity campaigns?

Penske_Account · 08-09-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
For now. We'll see if Lieberman remains as stubborn as Ralph Nader after he's had a few weeks to think about it. He's going to face a lot of pressure from party heavyweights,* and some financial pressure as well.

*I will add: figuratively and literally. Because otherwise Penske will post more stupid pictures of Ted Kennedy or Bill Clinton sunbathing. Though he probably still will, of course.

Bzzzzzzztttttttttt!!!!!!!!

Instead I give you a former heavyweight wannabe:

Adder · 08-09-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
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the last one is a dem?

Spanky · 08-09-2006, 04:21 PM

Tyrone Slothrop · 08-09-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
He got trounced when he ran for President in 2004. But even after that he stuck to his guns. Courageous.

I can't think of a Democratic candidate in 2004 who changed his positions after losing. They're all courageous, I guess.

Penske_Account · 08-09-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
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SlaveNoMore · 08-09-2006, 04:28 PM

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Adder
the last one is a dem?

the Boston Archdiocese? You are kidding, right?

Sidd Finch · 08-09-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I don't know, how many soldiers does it take to fly the planes to drop the bunker busting bombs and/or tactical nukes to take out their nuclear capability and as much of their military apparatus as bombing can take out?

I am guessing we can scrape up the number, or if not, we untether Israel as our proxy.

We going to rely on British intelligence to provide the coordinates? Or the CIA?

Sidd Finch · 08-09-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
So why does the MSM insist on calling this some Grassroots victory - when, as you note, its just another in a long line of vanity campaigns?

I don't know. My guess is that he raised more in small donations that most other serious primary challengers to an incumbent.

Either that, or it could all be part of the same Vast, Worldwide, Left-Wing Media Conspiracy that has prevented even Fox from reporting on all THE GOOD NEWS FROM IRAQ.

Spanky · 08-09-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I can't think of a Democratic candidate in 2004 who changed his positions after losing. They're all courageous, I guess.

Denial just isn't a river in Egypt. If they didn't change their position and their lack of change threatened their political career, then yes, they would be acting courageously. Liebermans support of the President cost him dearly even before this. It ruined his Presidential chances, and he was ridiculed and derided at almost all Democrat functions. He stood on principle and it cost him his seat. An act of courage.

Penske_Account · 08-09-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
We going to rely on British intelligence to provide the coordinates? Or the CIA?

Israeli intelligence.