Posting Towards Gomorrah

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I see your point.

You are against publicizing classified information, especially if the NY Times does it.

But you are in favor of publicizing classified information -- like, a how-to guide to building an atomic bomb, in convenient Arabic -- if the NY Times is against it.

Have you had your coffe yet? Don't be so obtuse. He never said publicizing this was a good thing. I am sure Slave supports the fact that they have taken it down. He, and the guy he quoted, are just saying that the fact that Saddam had information that can't be posted on the internet shows that he was a threat. Even if he didn't have the materials to make a bomb, he could sell that information to someone who did have the materials.

It is not that difficult a concept.

Sorry Slave - I should have let you respond to that but I just couldn't help myself.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It's Dems that are peddling the "out" list and it was a Dem from the HRC that peddled the Foley IMs.

I think you're wrong on both counts, unless "HRC" means "House Republican Something-That-Starts-With-'C'". But that doesn't matter anyway, because this Haggard fellow was outed by the gay prostitute in Colorado that he was screwing, NTTAWWT, not by people connected with Foley. Unless you think there's some sort of secret gay cabal responsible for all outing designed to harm Republicans?

Better yet - explain to me why it wouldn't follow.

The twin assumptions that (a) a gay outing someone must be a Democrat, and (b) outing is done in order to get homophobes to vote Democratic seem to me to reflect a very odd set of assumptions about the Democratic party, if not entirely conflicted (irony intended).

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Has anyone just considered that maybe the Lord works in mysterious ways?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
I am sure Slave supports the fact that they have taken it down.

What makes you so sure? It seems to me that Slave thinks that the more important story is that Saddam was working on a bomb in the mid-90s, which everyone already knew.

He, and the guy he quoted, are just saying that the fact that Saddam had information that can't be posted on the internet shows that he was a threat. Even if he didn't have the materials to make a bomb, he could sell that information to someone who did have the materials.

It is not that difficult a concept.

What's not a difficult concept -- that a person who had these documents and could publicize them was a threat, one that called for application of US military might?

Interesting. Saddam had this info, and so did Bush. Which one publicized it for all the world to see?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I think you're wrong on both counts, unless "HRC" means "House Republican Something-That-Starts-With-'C'". But that doesn't matter anyway, because this Haggard fellow was outed by the gay prostitute in Colorado that he was screwing, NTTAWWT, not by people connected with Foley. Unless you think there's some sort of secret gay cabal responsible for all outing designed to harm Republicans?



The twin assumptions that (a) a gay outing someone must be a Democrat, and (b) outing is done in order to get homophobes to vote Democratic seem to me to reflect a very odd set of assumptions about the Democratic party, if not entirely conflicted (irony intended).

Slave - I can believe you think it is a criticism of the Dems to allege they did this.

And Ty - I can't believe you would proclaim the Dems innocense in this like it was a good thing. If the Dems had outed him that would show they have their act together.

Both sides spend a lot of money on opposition research. I know, I have been researched a lot.

I kind of doubt that this was done by the Democrats. But that being said, if they didn't it was a mistake on their part. They should go around outing all these guys. Politics is a blood sport. This isn't bridge at the old folk’s home. They got lucky on this one, but lightning doesn't strike twice. They are going to have to find another one and they have just four days left.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
It's a close call on lamest denial of sex (it was a "massage"), but, then, there are many contenders for this one.

Nope. "What the meaning of is is" retired that crown.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Spanky
Slave - I can believe you think it is a criticism of the Dems to allege they did this.

And Ty - I can't believe you would proclaim the Dems innocense in this like it was a good thing. If the Dems had outed him that would show they have their act together.

Both sides spend a lot of money on opposition research. I know, I have been researched a lot.

I kind of doubt that this was done by the Democrats. But that being said, if they didn't it was a mistake on their part. They should go around outing all these guys. Politics is a blood sport. This isn't bridge at the old folk’s home. They got lucky on this one, but lightning doesn't strike twice. They are going to have to find another one and they have just four days left.

Ney just resigned, after hanging around until Nov. 1 to get his last paycheck.

We don't have to look very far. You guys keep handing them to us on a silver platter.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
And Ty - I can't believe you would proclaim the Dems innocense in this like it was a good thing. If the Dems had outed him that would show they have their act together.

I tend to think that people's private lives should be private, even if they are hypocrites. I do understand why other people feel differently.

Both sides spend a lot of money on opposition research. I know, I have been researched a lot.

I would be surprised if the Democratic Party was researched Ted Haggard for this purposes.

How do you know you've been researched? I'm curious.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
What makes you so sure? It seems to me that Slave thinks that the more important story is that Saddam was working on a bomb in the mid-90s, which everyone already knew.

Thinking one is a more important story is a far cry from thinking the US should continue to post classified instructions on how to build the bomb on the internet. Slave and friend never said that. They just said that this story shows Saddam was a threat. You saying that they wanted classified stuff to stay on the internet is pure straw man B.S.

In the other story the times leaked classified information. This story just reported about the leak of classified information. There is a big difference.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I tend to think that people's private lives should be private, even if they are hypocrites. I do understand why other people feel differently.



I would be surprised if the Democratic Party was researched Ted Haggard for this purposes.

How do you know you've been researched? I'm curious.

People pretending to be FBI or IRS people doing background checks calling college friends and college professors and family members etc. Both the FBI and IRS deny it was them. Other times it was people pretending to be prospective employers. Some time people have just admitted they were private eyes.

The biggest gold mine out there for them would be Less, but so far as I know, they have not contacted him. Its probably because he is a lawyer.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Spanky
People pretending to be FBI or IRS people doing background checks calling college friends and college professors and family members etc. Both the FBI and IRS deny it was them. Other times it was people pretending to be prospective employers. Some time people have just admitted they were private eyes.

The biggest gold mine out there for them would be Less, but so far as I know, they have not contacted him. Its probably because he is a lawyer.

My political career is over the second someone does a google search on me and finds my blog. The sex toy stuff alone will do me in.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Ney just resigned, after hanging around until Nov. 1 to get his last paycheck.

We don't have to look very far. You guys keep handing them to us on a silver platter.

Outing these guys is harder than you think. I know they have been out to get David Dreier for a while, but they have never found the smoking gun. The accusation has been made, it is most likely true, but they have never been able to make it stick.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
I think you're wrong on both counts, unless "HRC" means "House Republican Something-That-Starts-With-'C'". But that doesn't matter anyway, because this Haggard fellow was outed by the gay prostitute in Colorado that he was screwing, NTTAWWT, not by people connected with Foley. Unless you think there's some sort of secret gay cabal responsible for all outing designed to harm Republicans?

The twin assumptions that (a) a gay outing someone must be a Democrat, and (b) outing is done in order to get homophobes to vote Democratic seem to me to reflect a very odd set of assumptions about the Democratic party, if not entirely conflicted (irony intended).

A HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN STAFFER turns out to be behind the Foley affair website, according to this report. GayPatriot is unhappy: "I think the HRC needs to come clean and fully explain to those of you who give them money exactly what the hell they are up to. This entire matter has put every gay American into a bad light by equating child predators with being gay. The HRC has a responsibility to tell us what they know and when they knew it. They are now directly responsible for the anti-gay atmosphere that has emerged from the scandal that one of their own employees helped launch."

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
A HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN STAFFER turns out to be behind the Foley affair website, according to this report. GayPatriot is unhappy: "I think the HRC needs to come clean and fully explain to those of you who give them money exactly what the hell they are up to. This entire matter has put every gay American into a bad light by equating child predators with being gay. The HRC has a responsibility to tell us what they know and when they knew it. They are now directly responsible for the anti-gay atmosphere that has emerged from the scandal that one of their own employees helped launch."

(1) The Human Rights Campaign is not affiliated with the Democratic Party.

(2) The guy working at HRC who leaked the stuff was fired for doing so.

(3) The guy who gave the e-mails to the media got them from a Republican aide.

Most importantly:

(4) We were talking about Ted Haggard. You seem to be talking about Foley. WTF?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I don't write for Dead Prez. Thurgreed finds it odd I even listen to them.

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