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03-21-2018, 07:20 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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I’d be in favor of voiolating the UN’s lease and kicking it’s ass out. If that space became a mall or a food court I’d be able to run along the East River w/O having to leave up to 1st for a few blocks, just so a bunch of otherwise unemployable fucks can make anti-Israeli resolutions every few weeks. Also, when was the last time a leader of Israel or the US threatened to wipe Iran off the map?
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History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second in Farsi.
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03-21-2018, 07:41 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second in Farsi.
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I can only speak for me, but the years of you being President of this Board has prepared me for dealing with the Trump administration.
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03-22-2018, 09:47 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Also, when was the last time a leader of Israel or the US threatened to wipe Iran off the map?
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Well, Netanyahu has advocated nuking Iran. Does that qualify?
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Ira...mb-Iran-513938
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03-22-2018, 10:26 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Private statements from several people in different countries made to someone who should have been trustworthy to STFU is not the same as a public pronouncement.
That is really shocking by the way. How is that not akin to treason? How can our allies trust us next time (and not just Israel). Every time this idiot says or does something I'm again reassured that the country made a wise choice in 2004.
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03-22-2018, 10:37 AM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Also, when was the last time a leader of ... the US threatened to wipe Iran off the map?
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03-22-2018, 10:38 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
Private statements from several people in different countries made to someone who should have been trustworthy to STFU is not the same as a public pronouncement.
That is really shocking by the way. How is that not akin to treason? How can our allies trust us next time (and not just Israel). Every time this idiot says or does something I'm again reassured that the country made a wise choice in 2004.
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I never thought the phrase "Nuke Iran" (famous from those bumper stickers back in 1979) would re-emerge in the mainstream. Guess I was wrong.
Hillary, this... things come in threes.
I think we will never have another financial crisis! I am sure of it!
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03-22-2018, 10:42 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Bibi may be doing time for pedestrian offenses soon: https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/13/...rruption-trump
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03-22-2018, 10:46 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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I can only speak for me, but the years of you being President of this Board has prepared me for dealing with the Trump administration.
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Indeed. Ty set the president.
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03-22-2018, 11:38 AM
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I'd trust me, I'm a pre-med.
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I can only speak for me, but the years of you being President of this Board has prepared me for dealing with the Trump administration.
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My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
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03-22-2018, 11:43 AM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
That is really shocking by the way. How is that not akin to treason? How can our allies trust us next time (and not just Israel). Every time this idiot says or does something I'm again reassured that the country made a wise choice in 2004.
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Say what? When you say things to other people, sometimes they will keep your secrets and sometimes they won't. Maybe Kerry is an idiot and is telling secrets for the wrong reasons. But maybe he isn't and believes he is serving the country's best interests, and maybe he is. Maybe leaking that Netanyahu asked us to nuke Iran makes it less likely that Israel will ask us to nuke Iran, and less likely that we will nuke Iran. Keeping allies' secrets is a virtue, but it is not an end all in itself.
Nothing in what I say above is specific to Kerry.
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03-22-2018, 11:44 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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That's Precedent Slothrop to you, buddy. And you can stand when I enter the room.
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03-22-2018, 12:08 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Say what? When you say things to other people, sometimes they will keep your secrets and sometimes they won't. Maybe Kerry is an idiot and is telling secrets for the wrong reasons. But maybe he isn't and believes he is serving the country's best interests, and maybe he is. Maybe leaking that Netanyahu asked us to nuke Iran makes it less likely that Israel will ask us to nuke Iran, and less likely that we will nuke Iran. Keeping allies' secrets is a virtue, but it is not an end all in itself.
Nothing in what I say above is specific to Kerry.
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Careful: "Every leader I met with in the region..., [including Egyptian president Hosni] Mubarak,"
We've been done the "okay to hate on Israel" road here before, so I get you think it good to OUT Israel, but I know you aren't okay with "every other leader..." because, by definition, those are countries you think are good.
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03-22-2018, 12:27 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
Private statements from several people in different countries made to someone who should have been trustworthy to STFU is not the same as a public pronouncement.
That is really shocking by the way. How is that not akin to treason? How can our allies trust us next time (and not just Israel). Every time this idiot says or does something I'm again reassured that the country made a wise choice in 2004.
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The idea of bombing Iran shows up in the pages of the Jerusalem Post with some regularity, often espoused by various cabinet members, just as it shows up in the right wing press like Breitbart with some regularity. And the Saudis and their various clients would of course be happy to lend support to such an idea.
Former SoS's are required to run speeches by State before they are given; Kerry is a bit of a boy scout, so it's a pretty good assumption that he did so and that this was blessed by the current administration. It was probably blessed in order to send clear messages to Iran that there are people gunning for it. Maybe the chaos is too great now, but in a normal administration allies would have gotten a heads up before such a speech. That's kind of what a lot of those deep state people spend their timing doing.
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03-22-2018, 12:29 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Bibi's ability to stay out of jail so far shows just how good a job Israel has done at becoming just another Middle Eastern polity.
We're next.
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03-22-2018, 12:52 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
Careful: "Every leader I met with in the region..., [including Egyptian president Hosni] Mubarak,"
We've been done the "okay to hate on Israel" road here before, so I get you think it good to OUT Israel, but I know you aren't okay with "every other leader..." because, by definition, those are countries you think are good.
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I'm sorry -- I don't follow. If you think I'm saying this only because it's Israel that he outed, I don't think that's fair.
Have you ever criticized Netanyahu for taking partisan sides in US politics? Not to defend Kerry, but if he is making Netanyahu look bad personally at the expense of US-Israel relations more generally, that's not a good thing, but he certainly didn't start it.
eta: To make this about leaking rather than about Kerry, Netanyahu and Israel, here is a good column about recent Trump leaks.
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