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Hank Chinaski · 10-18-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Stop seeing her. Let it fizzle. She's probably as 'meh' about you as you are about her.

Alternatively, think about it a lot. Make up a Rube Goldberg plan to unwind it in the most neurotic manner possible. This will create a new vein of material for the board.

like see if she'll pee on him?

i don't see why he has a problem at all. she gave him all the out he needs. when he wants to do something besides sex her then go do it. if she calls he tells her he's doing something else that night. if he decides he wants to have sex, or dinner, with her then call her. what does he think she meant when she said she wants it to be casual?

there is no reason to abruptly end it, and in fact if Adder does, I bet the next time he wants to get the old pipes cleaned he'll call her and ask to get back together.

my way is more honest.

Diane_Keaton · 10-18-2008, 11:21 AM

Any criminal defense lawyers here? I'm curious about the public statements made by counsel for Casey Anthony, recently indicted in Florida for first degree murder of her daughter. This is the case where the child was missing for a month before the child's grandmother (defendant's mother) called police to say she hadn't seen her granddaughter in a month, that the defendant had fessed up the child had been "gone" for a month and that the defendant's car smelled like a dead body. The defendant first said she'd been looking "on her own" for the child since she'd gone missing, but then pictures surfaced of her partying all over Florida during the time in question. The defendant also said the child had been kidnapped by her "nanny" but then later admitted she'd lied about that when it was discovered the child didn't have a nanny, etc. Apparently, tests done on the car show evidence of human decomposition, and cadavar dogs hit on spots in the defendant's backyard where she may have been buried at one point.

Anyhow...my question involves the possible reasoning behind defendant's counsel in his public statements. Counsel has publicly announced several times that when he and his client "get a chance to tell their story", everything will finally make sense to everyone and will completely exonnerate his client. Putting aside that nobody is preventing them from "telling their story" right now (and before the indictment came down), I was thinking counsel's statement could only mean that he'd argue the child's death was an accident and his client was simply "scared" to tell anyone what happened. But.....counsel is also making very adament public pronouncements that the child is ALIVE, so the "it was just an accident" explanation wouldn't be consistent. Any thoughts on what these announcements mean in terms of strategy?

Atticus Grinch · 10-18-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Diane_Keaton

Any thoughts on what these announcements mean in terms of strategy?

I'm not a criminal defense attorney, but I assume the following: the jury will never go for "it was an accident and I was scared" if there are timestamped pics of her smiling just after the death of her child. So he's decided that it will be better to play to the jury's wishful thinking that the child is alive and try to establish reasonable doubt about the fact of death without having his client take the stand. Without an actual corpse, the jury might find reasonable doubt as to an essential element of murder. "It was an accident" concedes the element of the offense that will be hardest for the prosecution to prove. I'm not saying this is a winning strategy, but maybe it gets you out of a jam on the Nancy Grace satellite interview.

Diane_Keaton · 10-18-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

he's decided that it will be better to play to the jury's wishful thinking that the child is alive and try to establish reasonable doubt about the fact of death without having his client take the stand. Without an actual corpse, the jury might find reasonable doubt

On the one hand, it makes sense to defend a murder charge by saying "we think she's still alive". The problem is that defendant screwed up that defense by failing to look for the child, partying right after the child was "lost" and admittedly sending everyone who WAS looking for her on a wild goose chase with false leads. That seems to say defendant knew the child was dead. So she'd be better off saying "Okay, she's dead but it was only an accident and I got scared. I didn't look for her b/c I knew she was dead. And I went back out partying because I mourned her loss and then went back to living my own life."

But okay....for whatever reason the defendant isn't going to do that (perhaps skeletal remains will show blunt head trauma or something non-accidental). So what is the purpose of her attorney telling the public, over and over:

"I sincerely believe when we have finally spoken, everyone -- and I mean everyone -- will sit back and say, 'Now I understand and that explains it.'"

What could be so easy and simple that we'd say "oh, okay"? Thoughts? This case is driving me crazy.

ThurgreedMarshall · 10-20-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Adder

So, inappropriateness of thread title aside, I need breakup advice. I am sure you will all be shocked to learn that I have never really instigated a breakup before, but and thinking that I need to now.

We have been dating for several months now, although the status of the "relationship" is a bit in flux. For much of the time, it has been "casual" at her suggestion, with no objection from me. But even though I like her, enjoy hanging out with her, and we are compatible on quite a few levels, I don't think I have serious feelings for her. I don't know exactly where she is, although several month ago she actually said that she thought "she needs to be single again." The intervening sex and hanging out rather muddled what that meant, thus my confusion.

Anyway, how do you break up with someone with whom you are at most "casual" by agreement, but yet more than casual in practice (i.e., hanging out/hooking up every weekend, and with some frequency during the week)?

Of course, the added complication is that we work for the same employer. We don't generally work together, although that is a possibility. Hopefully it won't be a big deal as I don't think there are any hard feelings (at least yet), but nonetheless, it is a complication.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

"It was definitely fun hanging out with you, but I've started seeing someone else."

TM

Did you just call me Coltrane? · 10-20-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I'm afraid of it. My wife had to have drinks with someone she really didn't like a few weeks back because of it.

I couldn't handle that, even if the other person was buying.

I opened an account this weekend, and it's already starting to creep me out. Luckily, like gwnc, I can be a dick.

sebastian_dangerfield · 10-20-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

I opened an account this weekend, and it's already starting to creep me out. Luckily, like gwnc, I can be a dick.

I'm creeped out by the messages from people I didn't even like in college. They send them to my wife and ask how I'm doing and why I'm not on Facebook.

"Because I don't want to have to answer the questions you're asking."

1436 · 10-20-2008, 11:10 AM

I find LinkedIn a bit creepy when old high school friends pop up. Uh yeah, wouldn't you like to talk about business with the guy who couldn't even figure out the tax on the bong, or uhm . . . vase, he was buying the last time you saw him.

I can't imagine which weirdos I'd run into on Facebook. Do people born before 1980 really have a strong presence on facebook? I mean other than in the predatory sense.

Hank Chinaski · 10-20-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

"It was definitely fun hanging out with you, but I've started seeing someone else."

TM

if he does this before he starts actually sleeping with someone else, he is going to call her half drunk and wanting to get back together. wttw adder.

Replaced_Texan · 10-20-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 1436

I find LinkedIn a bit creepy when old high school friends pop up. Uh yeah, wouldn't you like to talk about business with the guy who couldn't even figure out the tax on the bong, or uhm . . . vase, he was buying the last time you saw him.

I can't imagine which weirdos I'd run into on Facebook. Do people born before 1980 really have a strong presence on facebook? I mean other than in the predatory sense.

I think of the 193 "friends" I have on facebook, maybe three were born after1980.

bold_n_brazen · 10-20-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I think of the 193 "friends" I have on facebook, maybe three were born after1980.

2. I love facebook. The people who've come out of the woodwork have been people I've genuinely been happy to reconnect with. I've learned some really sad things and some really great things about people. It's been worth it if for no other reason than to see all of those photos of me and my friends from college and our early 20's.

1436 · 10-20-2008, 12:35 PM

I don't know anyone in Michigan who would be caught doing this, do I?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081018/...tgBQf1CJQDW7oF

Hank Chinaski · 10-20-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 1436

I don't know anyone in Michigan who would be caught doing this, do I?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081018/...tgBQf1CJQDW7oF

not me. i've done vacuum's, but i'd need an attahcment to reduce the girth of the tube, and those car places don't provide.

1436 · 10-20-2008, 12:45 PM

Thanks for the confirmation.

I was a bit worried you would focus in on the "getting caught" aspect of the story. The "limited attachments avaialble" angle was much better.

ltl/fb · 10-20-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

if he does this before he starts actually sleeping with someone else, he is going to call her half drunk and wanting to get back together. wttw adder.

Yeah, I think it's important to leave open the possibility of convenience sex.

ETA so possibly just cut down a lot on the frequency of sex. Because if you disappear completely, she might be irritable next time you have unfulfilled needs.