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		|  11-06-2006, 02:33 PM | #4951 |  
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop I suspect that most sumo wrestlers are quite in touch with their asses, but whatever.
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		|  11-06-2006, 02:38 PM | #4952 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky Most true liberals are against all wars.  How many members of Congress would admit to being a liberal?  What percentage of those that would admit to being a liberal supported the invasion of Iraq or Clinton's bombing of Serbia?
 |  I love these definitional arguments.
 
So what you're saying is that Clinton's not a liberal when he bombs Serbia because liberals are not in favor of any wars.
 
In other words, liberals are against wars because when they aren't against wars they aren't liberals.
 
That's like saying all conservatives are dumb because if they weren't dumb they wouldn't be conservatives.
 
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		|  11-06-2006, 02:49 PM | #4953 |  
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy I love these definitional arguments.
 
 So what you're saying is that Clinton's not a liberal when he bombs Serbia because liberals are not in favor of any wars.
 |  When did I say Clinton was (or is) a liberal?  In fact I have said quite the opposite.  No members of the DLC are liberals.  They take liberal positions some time but generally they are not liberals.  
 
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy In other words, liberals are against wars because when they aren't against wars they aren't liberals. |  Real Dye in the wool liberals oppose most wars.  Who would argue against that?  Would you say Barbara Lee is not a liberal? 
 
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy That's like saying all conservatives are dumb because if they weren't dumb they wouldn't be conservatives.
 
 Equally true as your statements.
 |  I think you can accuse George Will, William F. Buckley, Krauthammer etc of may things, but being stupid is really one of them. 
 
It is pretty hard for me to imagine a war (or at least on the US would get involved in) that a real Dye in the wool neocon would oppose.  Isn't it also pretty safe to say that a true conservative would oppose any war that you could not at least argue was in the US's strategic interest.  For example, a true conservative would not support military intervention in Darfur?  A true liberal would allow an intervention but would either not let our soliders have guns, or forbid them to shoot back.    
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		|  11-06-2006, 02:52 PM | #4954 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky Real Dye in the wool liberals oppose most wars.  Who would argue against that?  Would you say Barbara Lee is not a liberal?
 |  So I'm not a liberal, aye? |  
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		|  11-06-2006, 02:54 PM | #4955 |  
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy So I'm not a liberal, aye?
 |  Did you support the invasion of Afghanistan? |  
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		|  11-06-2006, 02:55 PM | #4956 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky I think you can accuse George Will of may (sic) things, but being stupid is really one of them.
 |  I liked the piece you posted by Will the other day.  
 
I thought he espoused good, and thus liberal, views.  He's only stupid when he's not doing that. |  
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		|  11-06-2006, 02:57 PM | #4957 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky Did you support the invasion of Afghanistan?
 |  Were you not here then?  
 
Though, if I remember properly, the argument at the time that the administration was making was that it was not an invasion, since no boots hit the ground until quite late in the fighting.  Rather, we mainly provided materiel and air support for the Northern Alliance. |  
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		|  11-06-2006, 03:01 PM | #4958 |  
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy Were you not here then?
 
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		|  11-06-2006, 03:04 PM | #4959 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky No.
 |  I just went to find you some posts showing my support - looks like I wasn't here then either. 
 
But, the answer is, yes, I supported the invasion in Afghanistan. |  
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		|  11-06-2006, 03:07 PM | #4960 |  
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy .
 
 But, the answer is, yes, I supported the invasion in Afghanistan.
 |  Then, if your membership has not been revoked, it is on shakey ground:  you warmongering fascist.  We invaded Afghanistan to build Cheney's pipleline.  It had nothing to do with Al Queda.
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		|  11-06-2006, 03:08 PM | #4961 |  
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy I just went to find you some posts showing my support - looks like I wasn't here then either.
 
 But, the answer is, yes, I supported the invasion in Afghanistan.
 |  I wasn't here for the invasion of Iraq.  I may not have even been here for the 2004 election. |  
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		|  11-06-2006, 03:10 PM | #4962 |  
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy Just curious -- any difference between the far left, the liberals and the Democrats?  It seems like you think they are all always against all wars?
 |  they are against all wars where the objective is the furtherance of freedom, democracy, the American way, and good. They are for wars where subjugation of the people, property and rights by their faux-intellectual elitist leadership is the goal.
 
I am for wars in the former category above and will vote R tomorrow. PLease join me in supporting freedom and America and the repudiation of the Islamofacism and socialism of the PelosiRangel crowd ("PRC" for short).
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		|  11-06-2006, 03:11 PM | #4963 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky I wasn't here for the invasion of Iraq.  I may not have even been here for the 2004 election.
 |  Damn.  Where'd you get all those posts you wordy bastard.
 
(I take it back.  I see Penske has twice as many, and I swear I can't remember more than a handful of them).
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		|  11-06-2006, 03:13 PM | #4964 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky I wasn't here for the invasion of Iraq.  I may not have even been here for the 2004 election.
 |  Good times, good times, although my favourite era for this board, which I invented, was the  4months pre and post 2000 election period at the olde location.
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		|  11-06-2006, 03:14 PM | #4965 |  
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy Damn.  Where'd you get all those posts you wordy bastard.
 
 (I take it back.  I see Penske has twice as many, and I swear I can't remember more than a handful of them).
 |  Will you be truthful and admit that you can't help but think of me everytime you see a Penske truck? 
 
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