Keeping it civil instead of returning to our dark ways

[Tyrone Slothrop]

What to do when Republicans pretend to be gay activists from San Francisco to try to shock people into voting against Kerry? It turns out that they'll go away if you just point cameras at them.

[Watchtower]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
FWIW, this is exactly how I feel about the boomers. I am always on the lookout for good investment opportunities in the "get money from narcissistic greedy retiring fuckheads who complain constantly about their 'rights' but spent a lifetime avoiding the corresponding responsibilities" industry. Perhaps we should brainstorm business plans.

BR(er, sorry for the rant)C

I've long known Sebby had it out for me, but et tu?

Judge Not, Least Ye Be Judged.


-- Born Again Boomer

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What to do when Republicans pretend to be gay activists from San Francisco to try to shock people into voting against Kerry? It turns out that they'll go away if you just point cameras at them.

It's very sad that their attire gave them away. You would have thought that they could have forced themselves to watch one queer eye episode just for research purposes, but no, they had to wear the cell phone holster with khaki shorts and a polo shirt.

etfs

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
It's very sad that their attire gave them away. You would have thought that they could have forced themselves to watch one queer eye episode just for research purposes, but no, they had to wear the cell phone holster with kakhi shorts and a polo shirt.

So, are y'all saying that Kerry ain't for all things gay? I mean, what were the misrepresentations?

I think Kerry should take his views out of the closet and expose them to the world.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
I mean, what were the misrepresentations?

From what I linked to:

• “I know all about Polk street and the Castro,” he said. “Stanford University. I’m from San Francisco, and I’m for gay marriage.” He was wearing a yellow golf shirt, tucked into khaki chino shorts with a call phone clipped to his belt — the Republican uniform. “Our candidate, John Kerry, supports gay marriage, gay adoption, everything gay.”

I don't know where Kerry is on "gay adoption", but he opposes gay marriage. I happen to disagree with him on that issue, but there you go.

Sounds more like a Stanford uniform than a Castro uniform -- although last night was Halloween.

[NotFromHere]

Schilling makes appearance for Bush
Red Sox hero limps to stage, embraces president afterwards.

Schilling said...“On Tuesday, we need you to get out and vote. We need you to get your friends and neighbors out to vote — tell them you’re voting for President Bush and get them on board, too,” Schilling said. “I know everybody wants to be on a winning team, and there’s plenty of room on this bandwagon.”

So does this mean the Yankee fans will vote for Kerry? Cardinals? Astros?

Oh and another thing...Hunsicker quits as Astros GM

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Schilling makes appearance for Bush
Red Sox hero limps to stage, embraces president afterwards.

Schilling said...“On Tuesday, we need you to get out and vote. We need you to get your friends and neighbors out to vote — tell them you’re voting for President Bush and get them on board, too,” Schilling said. “I know everybody wants to be on a winning team, and there’s plenty of room on this bandwagon.”

So does this mean the Yankee fans will vote for Kerry? Cardinals? Astros?

Oh and another thing...Hunsicker quits as Astros GM

Oooo, there's a political role model...

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
It's very sad that their attire gave them away. You would have thought that they could have forced themselves to watch one queer eye episode just for research purposes, but no, they had to wear the cell phone holster with kakhi shorts and a polo shirt.

Well, shoot. This explains why the liberal hipster chicks never give me the time of day at the Kerry rallies around here. They think that I'm a Republican.

Note to self -- lose the cell phone holster, at least.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Watchtower
I've long known Sebby had it out for me, but et tu?

Judge Not, Least Ye Be Judged.


-- Born Again Boomer

I actually don't have it out for you. I've never seen you get judgmental on anyone. All I've seen is quiet, polite advocacy of your religious beliefs. I'd say that approach is far more likely to reach people than any of the fire and brimstone horseshit the Jesus Loons employ.*

* I wouldn't define a person who's merely faithful, unabashedly so, as a "Jesus Loon". The Loons are those who intend to make me faithful if not by conversion than by legislation. I see nothing in your record advocating that approach.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I don't know where Kerry is on "gay adoption", but he opposes gay marriage. I happen to disagree with him on that issue, but there you go.

What was his response in the debates on this topic, and are you sure it can be solidly marked as "opposed"?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
What was his response in the debates on this topic, and are you sure it can be solidly marked as "opposed"?

Golly, you must be right, because there's really no other explanation for these telephone calls in Michigan:

• In a recording of a phone call played for The Associated Press, a young woman says: "When you vote this Tuesday remember to legalize gay marriage by supporting John Kerry. We need John Kerry in order to make gay marriage legal for our city. Gay marriage is a right we all want. It's a basic Democrat principle. It's time to move forward and be progressive. Without John Kerry, George Bush will stop gay marriage. That's why we need Kerry. So Tuesday, stand up for gay marriage by supporting John Kerry."

linky

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What to do when Republicans pretend to be gay activists from San Francisco to try to shock people into voting against Kerry? It turns out that they'll go away if you just point cameras at them.

I am not looking at the pictures. I've seen enough ugly Americans holding banners and screaming in the past few weeks to get me through the next decade. But let me guess? Were they pleated shorts?

I seen tons of really aesthetically challenged 40s-to-50s aged people waddling about in a uniform of pleated shorts and t-shirts or polo shirts and trucker hats with W or Kerry logos. Its a carnival of flesh that ought to be hidden. Why must people persist in earing shorts, sweat socks pulled up to the ankle and sneakers? Its fucking disturbing. I want to grab one of these people and say "Damnit man... look at yourself! What the hell is the matter with you?" And the chicks in the "mom-shorts"... just wear a mumu. Spare me the sight of the "pouch" outlined in khaki. Its nauseating. I won't vote for anything advocated by someone who looks like she's got two asses. And finally, as if it hasn't been said enough, if you're rotund, bag the "message" t-shirt. I'm sick of reading a t-shirt on some advocate's rotund frame only to realize about halfway through the message that the text I'm scanning is stretched over a gargantuan set of man boobs, or twisted into a fold of flab between a set of breasts lying on top of a large gut.

I'm not going outside again until this thing is over.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Golly, you must be right, because there's really no other explanation for these telephone calls in Michigan:

I'll take your sarcasm, raise you by the truth, and end with the only possible logical conclusion. Dispute this:

1.)>>The president’s call for a constitutional amendment came under sharp criticism Tuesday night from Democratic presidential candidates Sens. John Kerry and John Edwards.

Both candidates reiterated their opposition to gay marriage during a California debate, but they also said the issue should be left up to the states to decide.
“He’s doing this because he’s in (political) trouble. ... He’s playing politics with the Constitution of the United States,” said Kerry, the front-runner for the nomination.<<

2.)>> ‘A problem that does not exist’
“This president is talking ... about amending the constitution for a problem that does not exist,” Edwards said.

Directly contradicting a claim made by Bush, Kerry also said the Constitution does not require states to recognize gay marriage licenses granted elsewhere in the country.
“I think, in fact, that no state has to recognize something that is against their public policy,” he said. And for two centuries, “we have left marriage up to the states.”<<


Conclusion: Uhm, full faith and credit?

Hello

ETA And before any asshole starts saying mean things, lplease note that I am opposed to mean things. Basically, opposed on a personal level? Because certainly not on a state level for any particular state, and he's certainly opposed to opposing it on a national level. Admit it man, John Kerry is for all things gay.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
It's very sad that their attire gave them away. You would have thought that they could have forced themselves to watch one queer eye episode just for research purposes, but no, they had to wear the cell phone holster with kakhi shorts and a polo shirt.

Well, I know a couple gay guys who dress that way, actually. What, gay guys can't be blah and dumpy, too?

I didn't see anything in that article clearly demonstrating republican-ness, honestly, except the blogger's determination that (i) their advertised issues might alienate some Dem voters, so they must clearly be Republican shit-stirrers, (ii) they didn't want their photos taken by someone calling them republican shit-stirrers and (iii) they were badly dressed and god knows Dems are never badly dressed (and, of course, ALL GAYS are ALL ABOUT FABULOUSNESS). (ii) seems the most damning, but, frankly, I can easily see someone living in a lot of areas of this country wanting to publicize a certain issue but not necessarily wanting to get their picture in the press over it. I had a HS teacher who was fired for getting her photo taken for the local paper at the abortion rights march in DC, so I don't consider that a gimme at all.

Also (or moreso) - I'm annoyed by the paternal tone of "these black churchgoing voters shouldn't have been exposed to that," as if they couldn't handle seeing what someone else says their candidate/party is about and evaluate it on its own merits/lack thereof. If someone comes up to me waiving a sign saying "Badnarik - he's in favor of live infant sacrifice!", I should either be able to say "no, I've found out where Badnarik stands on the human sacrifice issue, and you misstate it," or if I can't and the issue concerns me I should damn well be prepared to go find out for myself rather than believing what some random schmoe on the street says - though most people seem likely to decide "no, I'm going to believe that's not what my candidate stands for because I disagree with it" to avoid having to do anything so difficult as weigh the actual pros and cons of the various candidates instead of just ranting "mine, good! yours, anti-Christ!" (Whoops - getting pretty close to a "too stupid to vote" rant, there.)

That being said, yeah, pretty funny. Images of Bush I disappearing behind that column.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
What was his response in the debates on this topic, and are you sure it can be solidly marked as "opposed"?

We have heard from British Intelligence that Mary Cheney is a lesbian.