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Old 02-04-2008, 06:31 PM   #811
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That 72% of people told the Treasury Dept they view taxation as a civic duty does not mean it is immoral not to pay taxes.
Perhaps not. There are other surveys out there with similar results, but I assume that you will shrug them aside, too.

How about this, then -- do you think that it is immoral to accept benefits without paying for them?
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:36 PM   #812
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Do ya'll include immigrants who don't pay taxes in that category? Lots of undocumented workers do pay taxes, but a shit load don't.

ETA: BTW, Hank, if Howard is your barometer on how to vote in the primaries on FTC issues, this handy guide by the New York Times might point your lever hand in the right direction.

Also, if you stop talking about Canada, I'll stop slamming you on any healthcare posts you make. We're not Canada, we will never be Canada. Canada is irrelevant to healthcare discussions.
I only discuss Canada because some numbskull here uses it as a positive example, or perhaps I should say well-intentioned but ill-informed one of our internet friends. But I suppose I should turn the other cheek, adn let them give their opinions. What harm is done from someone expressing an opinion I feel is wrong.

I mean besides fringey's head getting ready to explode and there being no relief for her so that she has to go even battier and then my one source of light here going out when she just leaves.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:38 PM   #813
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Perhaps not. There are other surveys out there with similar results, but I assume that you will shrug them aside, too.

How about this, then -- do you think that it is immoral to accept benefits without paying for them?
if sebastian answers this query, after having ignored my similar request for clarification, then I admit my feelings will be hurt.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:42 PM   #814
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Both reach the same end. the difference is one is illegal. Not immoral. Illegal.
Is there some level greater than zero at which taxation (whether by income, head, or wealth) that is moral?
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:48 PM   #815
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Is there some level greater than zero at which taxation (whether by income, head, or wealth) that is moral?
I initially read "head" as "herd" and was intrigued by the "herd tax."

My jaw is doing a lot of clicking and I think I raked a bicuspid across the Magna Carta yesterday evening. Perhaps I do get too worked up about things.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:53 PM   #816
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if sebastian answers this query, after having ignored my similar request for clarification, then I admit my feelings will be hurt.
Well, I kinda doubt that he'll answer it. Or he'll just say that he doesn't get any benefits from the ZOG, what with him being a sword-wielding gorrilla who doesn't sleep and all.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:00 PM   #817
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Well, I kinda doubt that he'll answer it. Or he'll just say that he doesn't get any benefits from the ZOG, what with him being a sword-wielding gorrilla who doesn't sleep and all.
Karl Rove joining Fox News. Like, as an employee or something.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:09 PM   #818
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We're not Canada, we will never be Canada.
Hence the paucity of Newfie jokes on this board.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:10 PM   #819
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Karl Rove joining Fox News. Like, as an employee or something.
Rupert is a kind and generous man.
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is pictures of cute baby animals, like this polar bear cub:

http://www.weather.com/multimedia/vi...rom=hp_video_6
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:24 PM   #821
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is pictures of cute baby animals, like this polar bear cub:

http://www.weather.com/multimedia/vi...rom=hp_video_6
You might want to go over to the Animal Planet website for footage of Puppy Bowl if cute baby animals are doing it for you. There was a kitten halftime show.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:30 PM   #822
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Dr. King's pamphlet was called "Letters from a Birmingham Jail" not "Letters from an Offshore Tax Haven."
This is my favorite sentence of the day so far. It sings like the best of Hank's ouevre.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:38 PM   #823
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In Epstein's sense it is. His argument is that: if each individual is the beneficiary of $x in public benefit, any tax in excess of $x is inappropriate because the taxpayer is paying more than em is receiving.
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge."
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You might want to go over to the Animal Planet website for footage of Puppy Bowl if cute baby animals are doing it for you. There was a kitten halftime show.
I want to beeeeeee a puppy.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:53 PM   #825
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You might want to go over to the Animal Planet website for footage of Puppy Bowl if cute baby animals are doing it for you. There was a kitten halftime show.
Better yet, if you can get yourself to the Puerto Vallarta Zoo in Mismaloya, you can play with baby tigers and baby panthers. Should take care of the cute baby fix but good.
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