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Old 02-05-2008, 04:27 PM   #901
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:37 PM   #902
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Most government spending is for the military, social security, medicare/medicaid, and interest. People -- citizens, voters -- like this spending and want it to continue. Those who complain about pork and waste and imply that it makes a big difference to your taxes are cynical, misinformed, or both.

Any pork is too much, and I'd cut all three of those areas. That people are selfish and want something doesn't mean they should get it. And defense is a fucking money trough for unethical contractors.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:41 PM   #903
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Congratulations to Mike Huckabee and his delegates from West Virginia.
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Any pork is too much, and I'd cut all three of those areas. That people are selfish and want something doesn't mean they should get it. And defense is a fucking money trough for unethical contractors.
How would you cut interest expense?

And soc. sec.?

And medicare?

I mean, sure, it's nice to say you'd cut those, but it's not called "entitlement" spending because it's discretionary. Are we supposed to tell all retirees that going forward their SS benefits are going to be 20 percent less? I suppose we can do that because modern assault rifles are probably too heavy for them to carry, but still.
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Congratulations to Mike Huckabee and his delegates from West Virginia.
Are you "praying" for him to pick up enough so that he can broker a deal with McCain or Romney?
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How would you cut interest expense?

And soc. sec.?

And medicare?

I mean, sure, it's nice to say you'd cut those, but it's not called "entitlement" spending because it's discretionary. Are we supposed to tell all retirees that going forward their SS benefits are going to be 20 percent less? I suppose we can do that because modern assault rifles are probably too heavy for them to carry, but still.
I can't cut interest, obviously.

I'd just cut SS. Across the board, 10%. If people don't like it, too bad. Work out your loans. Times are tough.

First I'd allow medicare to negotiate with the drug companies on pricing and pass those savings along. Then I'd just cut reimbursements, say 5%.

We have to take our poison sometime, for God's sake. Better now, so that future generations won't be so fucking dependent on these things.
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How would you cut interest expense?

And soc. sec.?

And medicare?

I mean, sure, it's nice to say you'd cut those, but it's not called "entitlement" spending because it's discretionary. Are we supposed to tell all retirees that going forward their SS benefits are going to be 20 percent less? I suppose we can do that because modern assault rifles are probably too heavy for them to carry, but still.
OK, I only *just now* figured out that I had a very sell-crazy-someplace-else-we're-all-stocked-up-here reaction to crackpot employee of the week this morning because of sebby's total insanity. Thanks, Sebby. Here's a Bivens case for you to cite when you are protesting your taxes. Crazy employee apparently thinks that we are the federal government and so he cited Bivens in his email.

http://www.restoreliberty.com/complaint.htm

This, sebby, is what I hear in my head (uh, whatever, read in my head) when I read your insane posts about taxes.
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OK, I only *just now* figured out that I had a very sell-crazy-someplace-else-we're-all-stocked-up-here reaction to crackpot employee of the week this morning because of sebby's total insanity. Thanks, Sebby. Here's a Bivens case for you to cite when you are protesting your taxes. Crazy employee apparently thinks that we are the federal government and so he cited Bivens in his email.

http://www.restoreliberty.com/complaint.htm

This, sebby, is what I hear in my head (uh, whatever, read in my head) when I read your insane posts about taxes.
That's because you're missing my point. I don't support thos crackpot propositions, but I like to see them brought because anything that helps screw up our ability to tax effectively screws up our ability to feed the govt.
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First I'd allow medicare to negotiate with the drug companies on pricing and pass those savings along. Then I'd just cut reimbursements, say 5%.
So you're saying you don't want any new drugs to be available when you're old and need them most?
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That's because you're missing my point. I don't support thos crackpot propositions, but I like to seem them brought because anything that helps screw up our ability to tax effectively screws up our ability to fee the govt.
You didn't even have time to read that.

At what point does acting like a crackpot for such a long time, and so consistently, actually make you a crackpot?

You can't tell me there is no way you would throw a cite to Bivens into an email responding to a fifth request for backup documentation relating to putting the wife and kid on your health insurance. I mean, this guy probably thinks he's funny and/or advancing the greater good of overthrowing the tyrrany of the government, um, I mean, his private employer, just like you do.
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That's because you're missing my point. I don't support thos crackpot propositions, but I like to see them brought because anything that helps screw up our ability to tax effectively screws up our ability to feed the govt.
How do crackpot lawsuits screw up the ability to tax effectively? They just waste the time of the government in prosecuting them.

And before you say that it distracts from real enforcement, why is it better to have a tax code with higher rates designed to compensate for non-compliance? Wouldn't it be preferable to have 100% compliance at 80% of the rate than 80% compliance at 100% of the rate?
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How do crackpot lawsuits screw up the ability to tax effectively? They just waste the time of the government in prosecuting them.

And before you say that it distracts from real enforcement, why is it better to have a tax code with higher rates designed to compensate for non-compliance? Wouldn't it be preferable to have 100% compliance at 80% of the rate than 80% compliance at 100% of the rate?
You make an excellent point. It's a money cost as well as a time cost. My taxes -- and Sebby's -- went toward dealing with Wesley Snipes' bullshit arguments about not having to pay taxes.
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You make an excellent point. It's a money cost as well as a time cost. My taxes -- and Sebby's -- went toward dealing with Wesley Snipes' bullshit arguments about not having to pay taxes.
As a general proposition, if it emboldens five or ten other people to do the same thing it taxes the IRS' resources, which keeps it from enforcing tax law on smaller alleged cheats or people who have taken aggressive positions which may or may not be legal. The more the agency is compromised with excess work the more people pulling little stunts become more and more emboldened to continue and as that happens what is a $290 billion hole increases incrementally year to year and keeps getting worse. Even the fed govt has to observe some sort of relationship between revenues and spending, so maybe, just maybe, these silly revolts cause us to be robbed of a little pork we'd optherwise have (the billions lost being not that substantial a sum).

And I don't mind paying extra. It's not huge money at the end of the day.

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OK, I only *just now* figured out that I had a very sell-crazy-someplace-else-we're-all-stocked-up-here reaction to crackpot employee of the week this morning because of sebby's total insanity. Thanks, Sebby. Here's a Bivens case for you to cite when you are protesting your taxes. Crazy employee apparently thinks that we are the federal government and so he cited Bivens in his email.

http://www.restoreliberty.com/complaint.htm

This, sebby, is what I hear in my head (uh, whatever, read in my head) when I read your insane posts about taxes.
Personally, I've decided his insanity is attributible to the fact that Sebby lives in Pennsylvania, which was the hotbed of the anti-tax Whiskey Rebellion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion. He still resents that bastard George Washington because of it.

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