This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth

[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

dude "she's a slut" is not a defense to "you had sex with someone who is 13."

there's that whole "elements of a crime" thing.

1 did Roman have sex? Yes
2 was the female 13? yes
if so > guilty

WAIT! she was asking for it!

doesn't matter-

it like if you steal a TV and try to argue that it was defective, so you really didn't steal much

I like the couple that was arrested after they went on the Dr. Phil show (strike one) and boasted about their multi-state crime spree. They are pleading not guilty too. Brilliant.

http://www.popeater.com/article/ca-c...g-on-tv/669892

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

I cannot spend my day explaining obvious things to you.

you didn't get another job did you?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

No. I sit right on the corner of the north end zone, about 20 rows up, and beer is flowing until the third quarter. There also is a lot of tailgating in the parking lot before the games. I've only seen two or three fights in the 8 seasons I've had tickets. There are always a couple of drunken jackasses, but generally no one violent or near violent. There was a guy the first few years who was a little over enthusiastic in his cheering, and I think that other fans complained. He stopped going after awhile, though.

Lions' fans experiences may be different because the games we are watching invlove the Lions, so there isn't much excitement on the field.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

I can't say I'm surprised about that. With tougher enforcement and penalties than for the duty to report child abuse, too?

It's part of the child abuse reporting statute. They threw in the definitions of sexual assault of a minor in as well as the general abuse definitions. I generally have no problem with reporting statutes, and I think it's a good thing that professionals are requried to report sexual abuse. I just find it problematic that the romeo-and-juliet law doesn't contemplate juliet-and-juliet.

[dtb]

Originally Posted by Gattigap

This is a big reason why my attendance at live sports events has tailed off in recent years. Having to deal with assholish opposing fans drains a good bit of the fun from it (for me, anyway).

Then again, I don't see many Clemson games these days, so maybe I should reconsider.

In my local (small-town) newspaper, there were lots and lots of letters to the editor this week about the uproar caused by Obama's speech. Apparently, the Region Superintendent or the school board (I didn't really follow the "controversy") decided that they would tape and review the speech before allowing students to see it. Once they "OK'd" the speech, parents would be given the opportunity to opt out of their children's seeing it.

Anyway, several (really, more than two) letters included remarks to the effect of, "I didn't realize I had moved from Connecticut to South Carolina."

[dtb]

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick

Also Padma is knocked up.

Yet another thing that makes it hard to tell the two of us apart. Sigh.

[Fugee]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

i have no experience with criminal juries- do you have any non-TV experience?

i do have experience with juries generally, and i think one could keep them focused on the facts of this one.

i am done with this- it sickens me to discuss it.

My recent grand jury experience has given me no confidence in the thought processes of juries. Added to the stuff PLF mentioned, the DA may have been concerned the jury would have residual sympathy for Polanski over Manson killing his wife and think he had "suffered enough."

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I've only seen two or three fights

Per game at Soldier Field.

[Gattigap]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

Per game at Soldier Field.

I don't understand why this is surprising. Bears fans are SuperFans(tm), and you Don't Ever Fuck With A SuperFan.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

It's part of the child abuse reporting statute. They threw in the definitions of sexual assault of a minor in as well as the general abuse definitions. I generally have no problem with reporting statutes, and I think it's a good thing that professionals are requried to report sexual abuse. I just find it problematic that the romeo-and-juliet law doesn't contemplate juliet-and-juliet.

I consider than fairly even-handed for a state under the sway of the loons. Problematic, still, yeah. But surprising, not at all.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

Your persona is inconsistent with having an alma mater at which this would happen.

Oh, Adder, you who know so little of the world.

Remember the old Dorothy Parker saying, "If all the girls who went to the Harvard-Yale game were laid end to end, I wouldn't be surprised." Well, it's even like that at the second tier schools.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by dtb

In my local (small-town) newspaper, there were lots and lots of letters to the editor this week about the uproar caused by Obama's speech. Apparently, the Region Superintendent or the school board (I didn't really follow the "controversy") decided that they would tape and review the speech before allowing students to see it. Once they "OK'd" the speech, parents would be given the opportunity to opt out of their children's seeing it.

Anyway, several (really, more than two) letters included remarks to the effect of, "I didn't realize I had moved from Connecticut to South Carolina."

We had exactly the same thing here. Except replace Connecticut with Massachusetts for the letters.

[dtb]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

We had exactly the same thing here. Except replace Connecticut with Massachusetts for the letters.

I guess I was surprised at the uniformity of scorn heaped upon South Carolina. If I had written such a letter, I would have used Alabama or Mississippi.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

i have no experience with criminal juries- do you have any non-TV experience?

Only in serving on a grand jury. We indicted a guy for possession with intent to distribute, and for having a hand gun, but not for possession of a hand gun "during a crime of violence or other serious offense." As a matter of law, possession with intent to distribute is a predicate "serious offense," but despite three tries, the prosecutor couldn't make a majority of the panel understand that they had already indicted on all necessary elements.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I've only seen two or three fights in the 8 seasons I've had tickets.

You'll see that at a Jets game on any drive that's not a three-and-out.