I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

So much irony. So little time.

This one is my recent favorite: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b000d0b157b24f

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

If you're a giraffe, low hanging fruit is a real pain in the neck.

TM

So the sayings disparaging low hanging fruit were originally giraffe sayings?

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

So the sayings disparaging low hanging fruit were originally giraffe sayings?

Perhaps Sebby was trying to tell Greedy that a giraffe's reach should exceed its grasp/or what's a heaven for?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Perhaps Sebby was trying to tell Greedy that a giraffe's reach should exceed its grasp/or what's a heaven for?

Reading back through these "jokes" I have come to doubt whether, as PLF says, the low hanging fruit really does taste as sweet.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

If you're a giraffe, low hanging fruit is a real pain in the neck.

TM

I am always surprised that "long" suits are placed on the bottom rack, where I have to bend way over. GGG are "shorts' on the top rack usually? Got to be a bitch for you.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I am always surprised that "long" suits are placed on the bottom rack, where I have to bend way over. GGG are "shorts' on the top rack usually? Got to be a bitch for you.

I am, however, glad that there are still some gleaners gathering the fruit from the ground, where it rots and attracts rodents.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Disagree. Libertarians are not interested in setting up the protections required to protect those of us who face discrimination. This argument is in the same vein as those bullshit artist Republicans who say, "I'm socially liberal, but fiscally conservative." No you're not. Because there's no such thing. Whenever it comes down to actually funding support for those social issues you pretend you care about, you're nowhere to be found. And that's because you don't really care about them. All you care about is less taxes.


TM

Dissent. I am socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I want to reduce the overall size of government with a negative income tax, I want to end subsidies to banks, Pharma, Big Ag, and I want to tax the carried interest as wages, which is what it is.

I want to take those savings and nationalize health care, improve education by giving block grants to schools in areas that have smaller tax revenue bases than the country at large, increase both community policing and parks and recreation facilities and outreach in neighborhoods, again through block grants.

I want to be fiscally conservative by making administration of the block grants subject to oversight boards made up of educators, law enforcement, and, most importantly, citizens.

I want to be socially liberal by federal legislation making sexual and gender orientation protected classes. I want to strengthen and expand the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and I want to promote stronger communities by using scattered site housing for Section 8 and other public housing.

I also recognize I am dreaming. But I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Reading back through these "jokes" I have come to doubt whether, as PLF says, the low hanging fruit really does taste as sweet.

It was really more about me showing off that I retained something from the liberal arts education I received at Podunk U.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

It was really more about me showing off that I retained something from the liberal arts education I received at Podunk U.

Your joke was better than others. Including mine.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

Dissent. I am socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I want to reduce the overall size of government with a negative income tax, I want to end subsidies to banks, Pharma, Big Ag, and I want to tax the carried interest as wages, which is what it is.

I want to take those savings and nationalize health care, improve education by giving block grants to schools in areas that have smaller tax revenue bases than the country at large, increase both community policing and parks and recreation facilities and outreach in neighborhoods, again through block grants.

I want to be fiscally conservative by making administration of the block grants subject to oversight boards made up of educators, law enforcement, and, most importantly, citizens.

I want to be socially liberal by federal legislation making sexual and gender orientation protected classes. I want to strengthen and expand the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and I want to promote stronger communities by using scattered site housing for Section 8 and other public housing.

I also recognize I am dreaming. But I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

If the "socially liberal and fiscally conservative" label means Wonk, we live in a nice world. I don't think the label is usually applied to the Wonks of the world, however.

I mean, I can argue I'm a libertarian, myself. But then I'd have to apply mouth-to-mouth to resuscitate Sebby and I have no interest in that.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

Dissent. I am socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I want to reduce the overall size of government with a negative income tax, I want to end subsidies to banks, Pharma, Big Ag, and I want to tax the carried interest as wages, which is what it is.

I want to take those savings and nationalize health care, improve education by giving block grants to schools in areas that have smaller tax revenue bases than the country at large, increase both community policing and parks and recreation facilities and outreach in neighborhoods, again through block grants.

I want to be fiscally conservative by making administration of the block grants subject to oversight boards made up of educators, law enforcement, and, most importantly, citizens.

I want to be socially liberal by federal legislation making sexual and gender orientation protected classes. I want to strengthen and expand the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and I want to promote stronger communities by using scattered site housing for Section 8 and other public housing.

I also recognize I am dreaming. But I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

I just want my taxes lower and my employees have the health care we used to have.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I want to end subsidies to... Pharma

What does that mean? Because government is uniquely suited to experimental research, the kind that isn't tied directly to product development, which is indirectly a big subsidy for pharma if it ever leads to something.

You could change that by getting government into the drug/device business, which would come with its own set of problems, but I don't think you want to take it away.

Big Ag

But keep subsidies for small ag? That doesn't sound like it would work either.

I want to be socially liberal by federal legislation making sexual and gender orientation protected classes. I want to strengthen and expand the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and I want to promote stronger communities by using scattered site housing for Section 8 and other public housing.

I also recognize I am dreaming. But I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

And very much not a libertarian.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

Dissent. I am socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I want to reduce the overall size of government with a negative income tax, I want to end subsidies to banks, Pharma, Big Ag, and I want to tax the carried interest as wages, which is what it is.

I want to take those savings and nationalize health care, improve education by giving block grants to schools in areas that have smaller tax revenue bases than the country at large, increase both community policing and parks and recreation facilities and outreach in neighborhoods, again through block grants.

I want to be fiscally conservative by making administration of the block grants subject to oversight boards made up of educators, law enforcement, and, most importantly, citizens.

I want to be socially liberal by federal legislation making sexual and gender orientation protected classes. I want to strengthen and expand the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and I want to promote stronger communities by using scattered site housing for Section 8 and other public housing.

I also recognize I am dreaming. But I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

I think your definition of "fiscally conservative" may be your own.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I just want my taxes lower...

What exactly does this mean?

• Do you mean you want government run more efficiently? This always seems like code for doing away with services that will not be replaced.
• Do you mean you want to reduce spending on social programs? If so, which will you cut?
• Does this mean you want to privatize aspects of the federal government? Does this come with the realization that you will pay the same or more to private companies for the same or worse services?
• Do you want the same services, but just want to lower your taxes? Would you prefer to shift your tax burden upward to the rich or downward to the poor and middle class?

TM

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

What does that mean? Because government is uniquely suited to experimental research, the kind that isn't tied directly to product development, which is indirectly a big subsidy for pharma if it ever leads to something.

Wonk is trying to kill me. It's personal, because the last time I saw him he ended up in the hospital.