I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I have heard of absolutely no looting or rioting anywhere.

TM

Unfortunately. Ton of screaming at Trump Tower though. If I do get there, I am going to have to start shoplifting something even if it is a stupid fucking solid tie.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

A Hispanic co-worker of my wife's got assaulted at work yesterday by a guy who said he didn't have to be politically correct anymore.

That's appalling. It's the first report I've heard of such behavior, but I'm certain there will be more. I would hope your wife's employer has fired the sombitch and made it clear to all employees that yes, they do still have to be politically correct.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Adder

The sad irony is that latino immigration is great for American overall and rural America in particular.

The truth isn't important.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

Funny. Nobody's delivered my national identity card yet.

1. He's not in office yet.
2. Go look at the link Icky shared.

But if your point is limited to noting that we've not yet seen brownshirts in the streets, that's true. I don't know why we'd expect to when they won the election.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Adder

Why is anyone still watching TV news?

Why does anyone believe the internet sources have any credibility?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

Why does anyone believe the internet sources have any credibility?

Because all sources are internet sources. That's where newspapers are published. That's where your TV news is getting the things they are telling you.

And, of course, you can use powerful tools like Twitter to get a vastly broader perspective (or narrower if you prefer) than you can ever get in 90 second bites designed for the lowest common denominator.

I was never much of a tv news guy anway, but watching local BLM protests on tv while simultaneously tracking them on twitter was eye-opening. The news basically "reported" whatever the statements the police put out (via twitter) as fact when we could all see in the video and elsewhere that it was BS.

And that's leaving aside how much of tv news is (1) sensationalistic, and (2) drivel.

ETA: Okay, I just had a pang of "what if Wonk is watching from a hospital bed," in which case I'm sorry and get well, please.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

That's appalling. It's the first report I've heard of such behavior, but I'm certain there will be more. I would hope your wife's employer has fired the sombitch and made it clear to all employees that yes, they do still have to be politically correct.

It's a hospital, the sombitch was a patient's family member, and he suffered no consequences whatsoever.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I was going on the basis of CBS morning news. If they got it wrong, I stand corrected. But they had footage of NOLA.

I know your latest move from the urbs requires some adjustment, but you seem to be bending over backwards in some weird effort to even things out between two different approaches to life based on geography. You don't have to turn those who are upset over the proposition that the President-elect seems to actively hate blacks and Hispanics into looters and thugs to prove your new countrified bona fides. You can be fair and open minded about the new place you live and the people who live there without shitting on the place you left.

TM

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by soup sandwich

Look, I have doubts that "a lot" is that many people. For example, in the 2000 census of East Liverpool, OH (mentioned in Sebby's link), there were 13,089 people, 5,261 households, and 3,424 families residing in the city. That's an awful lot of sick parents and family businesses keeping those folks there. How many thousands are just hanging around? Waiting for what? I want to understand this part.

Somewhere in their family tree they have an ancestor who hopped on a boat with all their possessions in a bag and started a new life in the US. These folks won't even hop a greyhound to Bismarck. How come?

I take some solace in that the 2010 census shows a reduction to 11,195 people, 4,601 households, and 2,892 families residing in the city.

I don't know Ohio or other places, but I know my little corner of upstate NY.

If you look at my friends from growing up, everyone in the top of the class has left; everyone. Of the people I know who are still there, one ran into pretty severe drug problems and needed care from their family; one has been in and out of jail; two had family farms; one had a family construction company; one a family store; one stayed to take care of their mother and sister; one left but moved back to take care of their father, and that's it. Three others who stuck around are dead (drugs, car crash, most recent one was cancer). And a bunch of the rest I've lost touch with, there may be a couple more. I last caught up with a bunch of them when I went back for my father's funeral two years ago.

What I can't figure out is why other people have moved into town to fill up the spaces left by those who left. I mean, other than the family who opened the Indian restaurant there, which is really, really, really welcome.

The area went for Trump 48% to 47%. I'm assuming that little group of remnants from my class is pretty representative, though.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

two had family farms; one had a family construction company; one a family store

These do not sounds like people who need jobs, jobs, jobs.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

These do not sounds like people who need jobs, jobs, jobs.

I'd bet the ones with family businesses are the ones who went Trump first.

I forgot one other one, too, I can't believe it.

One stuck around because he took over the family's funeral parlor. He was where I got most of my info, since he took care of Dad and let the rest know about the funeral.

[Adder]

For Wonk, in case they don't get to it on tv.

Lede:

Attacks on women in Islamic head scarves, racist graffiti and stories about bullying of immigrant children indicated a backlash against U.S. minorities from Donald Trump supporters after his presidential win.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I know your latest move from the urbs requires some adjustment, but you seem to be bending over backwards in some weird effort to even things out between two different approaches to life based on geography. You don't have to turn those who are upset over the proposition that the President-elect seems to actively hate blacks and Hispanics into looters and thugs to prove your new countrified bona fides. You can be fair and open minded about the new place you live and the people who live there without shitting on the place you left.

TM

He lives in one of the most evolved places I've been.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I missed the burning and looting. Reports?

I saw some tasteless Trump pinatas and a trump effigy that got burned.

I also saw some stopping traffic, which is annoying and does no good but that's an inconvenience not violence.

Most of what I saw was peaceable.

I'll let others recite what some of the Trumpsters have done in the last two days.

How about doing a precinct-by-precinct postmortem on who voted, who didn't, why, and what it would take to get them back into the fold?

Did everybody who saw Ty's wife's co-worker get assaulted report the incident and stick around to give a statement?

"Peaceable" still means "I'd rather fuck things up than fix them."

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

He lives in one of the most evolved places I've been.

Great! Hopefully no one else who lives there is calling people who march to express their distaste, "looters."

TM