All Hank, all the time.

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You know my ancestors, the Italians, had their home in Ireland and the UK, before you lot took it. You fuckers are living on my birth right, and mucking it all up growing potatos instead of spaghetti plants or grape vines.

Show me where it says that in the Bible. Otherwise, we have nothing to talk about.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You know my ancestors, the Italians, had their home in Ireland and the UK, before you lot took it. You fuckers are living on my birth right, and mucking it all up growing potatos instead of spaghetti plants or grape vines.

Maybe you'd have been able to hold on to it if you hadn't been so busy killing Christ.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Not genocide. Restoring order. Just like what Israel is doing in Lebanon, but on a global scale. The idea is to stop the terror and the genocide. Then spend the time and the resources to build infrastructure, institutions, establish markets.

If we're really going to stop the genocide and the terrorism, then we have to be prepared to go all the way. Applying band-aids to those wounds we find it politically expedient to treat is like trying to stop the heroin trade one street dealer at a time.

I s'pose my view of imperialism is more negative than yours. I see it tending more towards genocide than order.

A very orderly genocide, but still.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by ironweed
It's very good. I read it when I knew almost nothing about the game and it was still a great story. Don't be put off by the stupid hollywood movie they tried to make out of it (the Red Sox for fuck's sake). I highly recommend it.

ETA: duh. You read it already.

I have never heard of the movie. Who was in it?

[Adder]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Here, you and I agree. But I think that Hezbollah appears to be very well entrenched, willing to fight hard, drawing sympathy from the Arab governments that initially condemned their actions, and uninterested in diplomatic solutions where they lay down their arms like Sinn Fein.

You do realize that there was 25 year period where you could have said the things about the modern IRA?

Originally posted by Spanky
I have never heard of the movie. Who was in it?

Are you for real? Go to google and type "fever pitch." Seriously.

There was a UK version as well, which was miles better but still crap compared to the book.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Adder
You do realize that there was 25 year period where you could have said the things about the modern IRA?

Yeah. So?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ironweed
Are you for real? Go to google and type "fever pitch." Seriously.

There was a UK version as well, which was miles better but still crap compared to the book.

I think you'd get dirty pictures if you do that. try imdb.

Originally posted by Adder
You do realize that there was 25 year period where you could have said the things about the modern IRA?

But what kind of songs does Hezbollah have? The IRA always had some very good songs.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ironweed
But what kind of songs does Hezbollah have? The IRA always had some very good songs.

the "passed out drunk half the time" thing also provided safe time so the housewives could get their shopping done safely.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by ironweed
Are you for real? Go to google and type "fever pitch." Seriously.

There was a UK version as well, which was miles better but still crap compared to the book.

OH MY GOD: The Jimmy Fallon - Drew Barrymore movie about basefall!!!!. I had forgotten the name - obviously I never saw it but remember the ads for it. But it was an autobiography. How do you take an autobiography written by a crazed English soccer fan and turn it into a fictional account of a guy who is into a baseball team in the states?

In any event I don't see how the humor could be translated into a movie unless the movie was narrated. Its the guys observations that made it funny.

Have you read "How to Be Good". That was the first book (and only other book) I have read by Horby, but it was really good. Really funny.

Originally posted by Spanky
OH MY GOD: The Jimmy Fallon - Drew Barrymore movie about basefall!!!!. I had forgotten the name - obviously I never saw it but remember the ads for it. But it was an autobiography. How do you take an autobiography written by a crazed English soccer fan and turn it into a fictional account of a guy who is into a baseball team in the states?

In any event I don't see how the humor could be translated into a movie unless the movie was narrated. Its the guys observations that made it funny.

Have you read "How to Be Good". That was the first book (and only other book) I have read by Horby, but it was really good. Really funny.

I didn't read that one, but "High Fidelity" was good, as was the movie, which I did see (and if you haven't you should) and "About A Boy" was also good.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
So we should not have destroyed the Nazis because they enjoyed the support of a lot of Germans?

In what sense did we "destroy" the Nazis?

Seriously... Hezbollah is a military force. So long as it remains one, it has no legitimacy as a political party. Zero. If they disarm, then they regain legitimacy -- but there seems to be no desire to do that.

In the military sense, we can destroy them. But Hezbollah will still exist. And I think you and I are using the word "legitimacy" in different ways, too. This conversation may be more about the ambiguity of language than about substantive differences in what Hezbollah deserves.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I don't have a clue what the US needs to do in Baghdad. It's too late to hit the rewind button and not start the fucking Bush fiasco in the first place.

2.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by taxwonk Google Niall Ferguson. I don't agree with everything the man says by a long shot, but he does utter some of the same foul truths I've been saying.

You think Great Britain should have stayed out of WWI and let Germany win?