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		|  04-10-2006, 02:26 PM | #211 |  
	| Moderasaurus Rex 
				 
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		| Originally posted by andViolins One could certainly argue the National Labor Relations Act.
 |  Don't forget the common law of contracts.
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		|  04-10-2006, 02:30 PM | #212 |  
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		| Originally posted by andViolins One could certainly argue the National Labor Relations Act.
 
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 |  All the NLRA requires of GM is that they negotiate with a collective bargaining unit.  I am not even certain the practical application of the Act requires them to negotiate in good faith.
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		|  04-10-2006, 02:32 PM | #213 |  
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		| Originally posted by taxwonk All the NLRA requires of GM is that they negotiate with a collective bargaining unit.
 |  Well, it's hard to deny that likely has an effect on the wages ultimately agreed to.
 
(although it's not statutory setting of the rates, which really isn't the point here, is it?)
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		|  04-10-2006, 03:23 PM | #214 |  
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		| Originally posted by andViolins One could certainly argue the National Labor Relations Act.
 
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One could also argue the Alien and Sedition Act.  It wouldn't make any sense, but one could argue it. |  
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		|  04-10-2006, 03:26 PM | #215 |  
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				Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran
			 
 
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		| Originally posted by Gattigap For those of us following the breast-beating on Iran, James Fallows has an interesting (if depressing) article in the latest Atlantic which war-games this possibility.
 
 {{long rant about bad policies and their aftermath}}
 
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Translation:  Gattigap is with the terrorists.  Where is bilmore when we need him to say this? |  
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		|  04-10-2006, 04:00 PM | #216 |  
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		| Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) Well, it's hard to deny that likely has an effect on the wages ultimately agreed to.
 
 (although it's not statutory setting of the rates, which really isn't the point here, is it?)
 |  Yes, putting parties on an equal footing has probably had the effect of raising wages.  But as you pointed out, that isn't really what we're discussing here.
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		|  04-10-2006, 04:43 PM | #217 |  
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				      | Spotted at the demonstrations  today: A Canadian flag flying from a hockey stick.
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		|  04-11-2006, 02:02 PM | #218 |  
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				      | My squabble with Spanky and Sebby, in fewer but better words.
 
Actually, I'm not sure Cowen frames the issue right. 
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		|  04-11-2006, 03:09 PM | #219 |  
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 So given that Iran has gone against the international community and successfully enriched Uranium, I would like to hear from those who favor internationally cooperation above all else, as to what we are supposed to do now? |  
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		|  04-11-2006, 03:13 PM | #220 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub So given that Iran has gone against the international community and successfully enriched Uranium, I would like to hear from those who favor internationally cooperation above all else, as to what we are supposed to do now?
 |  I'd like to hear from anyone with a good idea of what to do.  Short of using nuclear weapons  ourselves, there's not much we can do to prevent Iran from getting the Bomb if they're intent on doing so, and much of what we might try could be counter-productive.
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		|  04-11-2006, 03:18 PM | #221 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub So given that Iran has gone against the international community and successfully enriched Uranium, I would like to hear from those who favor internationally cooperation above all else, as to what we are supposed to do now?
 |  Invade Syria? |  
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		|  04-11-2006, 03:21 PM | #222 |  
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop I'd like to hear from anyone with a good idea of what to do.  Short of using nuclear weapons ourselves, there's not much we can do to prevent Iran from getting the Bomb if they're intent on doing so, and much of what we might try could be counter-productive.
 |   Sell some bunker buster tactical nukes to Israel.
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		|  04-11-2006, 03:23 PM | #223 |  
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		|  04-11-2006, 03:43 PM | #224 |  
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				Duke
			 
 yesterday's news. today's news is they're still going to try to make a case.
 
I don't get it.  It started off sounding really awful, and not surprising that a bunch of drunk rich kids might do something like this.  But then little tidbits started to leak out that made the story questionable (like the email).  Now there's no DNA whatsoever?  Yet there's evidence she was raped?  How could the DA possible think he could put on a case against the frat boys?  
 
I'm not saying she wasnt' raped.  She may well have been.  But if you have proof none of the lax guys did it, why isn't he saying where he is looking?
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		|  04-11-2006, 04:00 PM | #225 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub So given that Iran has gone against the international community and successfully enriched Uranium, I would like to hear from those who favor internationally cooperation above all else, as to what we are supposed to do now?
 |  I'm not sure that anyone here favors international cooperation "above all else."
 
But it sure would be nice if some other countries were carrying the load in Iraq, so that the US might actually have a military option in Iran, beyond massive bombing. |  
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