A Friendly Correction for those Man-Haters who Delve to be Single

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

The spread draws a necessary line from the neck to the suit. The point of the point collar floats between the two, lost, leaving the suit to appear a size too big.

Better to look like a schoolgirl than a 1st year state court law clerk, or criminal defendant in Sears off the rack.

If you can see the loop of the tie poking out between the collar and the knot, it just looks wrong. If anyone remembered how to tie a full Windsor knot, it might be different. But we don't, and therefore we cannot wear cutaway collars. That little smidgen of loop says "the suit may be bespoke, but it was made 20 pounds and 15 years ago."

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

1 shower more. 2 have associates do the sweatier work.

1 I wear collars tight, so as not to look like I'm ill with some withering disease. 2 I cannot find any attractive young female associate to work for bitcoins.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

2. The cutaway's tricky. You're supposed to wear a fat knot with it that looks a bit precious.

That Windsor collar isn't bad, but I prefer something between the two.

And fuck white shirts. Collars on the damn things are hopelessly soiled after ten wearings/cleanings. If you're going to shell out cash for a good shirt, go with something patterned. Hides the inevitable ring around the collar.

The smartest thing anyone ever told me about dressing was that a dress shirt is a disposable item. You should be prepared for the possibility that you will get one wearing out of it. Price them accordingly.

You still need to have 100% natural fibers, like cotton, linen, and silk. The fabric still has to have a good hand, a tight weave, and the shirt should look like a shirt, not a cocktail dress or a sausage casing. But a gentleman sometimes needs a white shirt. Price them accordingly.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

2. The cutaway's tricky. You're supposed to wear a fat knot with it that looks a bit precious.

That Windsor collar isn't bad, but I prefer something between the two.

And fuck white shirts. Collars on the damn things are hopelessly soiled after ten wearings/cleanings. If you're going to shell out cash for a good shirt, go with something patterned. Hides the inevitable ring around the collar.

Customer: How do you get shirts so clean, Mr. Lee?

Mr. Lee: Ancient Chinese secret.

Mrs. Lee: My husband, some hotshot. Here's his ancient Chinese secret: Calgon! Calgon's two water softeners soften wash water so detergents can clean better.

Mrs. Lee: We need more Calgon!

Customer: Ancient Chinese secret, huh?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

The smartest thing anyone ever told me about dressing was that a dress shirt is a disposable item. You should be prepared for the possibility that you will get one wearing out of it. Price them accordingly.

You still need to have 100% natural fibers, like cotton, linen, and silk. The fabric still has to have a good hand, a tight weave, and the shirt should look like a shirt, not a cocktail dress or a sausage casing. But a gentleman sometimes needs a white shirt. Price them accordingly.

The smartest thing I ever realized on my own about dress shirts is patterns also hide food and drink stains.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

If you can see the loop of the tie poking out between the collar and the knot, it just looks wrong. If anyone remembered how to tie a full Windsor knot, it might be different. But we don't, and therefore we cannot wear cutaway collars. That little smidgen of loop says "the suit may be bespoke, but it was made 20 pounds and 15 years ago."

True, it violates a rule. But it's a rule worth ignoring, like the ban on white pants after Labor Day.

And I'd sooner wear men's culottes than a full Windsor knot. Even Hugh Grant, who successfully treads an odd line between fop and heartthrob, looks slap-worthy rocking the Windsor.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

Customer: How do you get shirts so clean, Mr. Lee?

Mr. Lee: Ancient Chinese secret.

Mrs. Lee: My husband, some hotshot. Here's his ancient Chinese secret: Calgon! Calgon's two water softeners soften wash water so detergents can clean better.

Mrs. Lee: We need more Calgon!

Customer: Ancient Chinese secret, huh?

Mr. Lee: Then go buy yourself some fucking Calgon! You think I need clean the skid marks out of your pant suit to pay my mortgage? You overplay your hand!

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Fuck everything. Ukraine? ISIS? Football season, the start of the kids' school year--

Fuck it all because THERE'S A NEW IPHONE!!!!!! And it's bigger! It's bigger! Bigger! Mother---fucker!!!! It is sooooo big!

Jesus Fucking Christ IT'S ENORMOUS!!!

I don't know what-- I'm hyperventilating!!! It's HUGE!!! I think I'm going to-- Oh, God...

[Icky Thump]

With a boner for the iwatch but no boner for a bigger iphone?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

The smartest thing anyone ever told me about dressing was that a dress shirt is a disposable item. You should be prepared for the possibility that you will get one wearing out of it. Price them accordingly.

You still need to have 100% natural fibers, like cotton, linen, and silk. The fabric still has to have a good hand, a tight weave, and the shirt should look like a shirt, not a cocktail dress or a sausage casing. But a gentleman sometimes needs a white shirt. Price them accordingly.

My shirts are made bespoke by the ghost of the Duke of Windsor on 32 Savile Row.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

My shirts are made bespoke by the ghost of the Duke of Windsor on 32 Savile Row.

Nordstrom noniron. 49 bucks and I always get compliments.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Nordstrom noniron. 49 bucks and I always get compliments.

The ghost of Wallis Simpson gives me unsolicited fellatio solely based on the quality of my shirts.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

With a boner for the iwatch but no boner for a bigger iphone?

Neither gives me a boner, but I'm more interested in the iWatch than a phone that won't fit in the pocket of my shirt, let alone my jacket or pants pocket. If I wanted that I'd buy an iPad mini.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

The smartest thing I ever realized on my own about dress shirts is patterns also hide food and drink stains.

No. You only think they do.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

And I'd sooner wear men's culottes than a full Windsor knot. Even Hugh Grant, who successfully treads an odd line between fop and heartthrob, looks slap-worthy rocking the Windsor.

Hence my ban on the full spread collar. Thank you.