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		|  09-29-2006, 02:13 PM | #2371 |  
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		| Originally posted by Penske_Account Except their god was communicating to them through an alcoholic pedophillic hate mongering mouthpiece, who may have distorted the message.
 |  Like Jimmy Swaggart?
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		| Originally posted by SlaveNoMore Sure seem to be a lotta them radicals, huh?
 
 
 
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 |  Six surah out of 114.  And your source doesn't quote a single one of them.  Shall we go through the Bible looking for exhortations to violence and murder as well?
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		|  09-29-2006, 02:20 PM | #2373 |  
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		| Originally posted by taxwonk Like Jimmy Swaggart?
 |  Jimmy Swaggart didn't write the bible, either testament.
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		|  09-29-2006, 02:22 PM | #2374 |  
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		| Originally posted by taxwonk Six surah out of 114.  And your source doesn't quote a single one of them.  Shall we go through the Bible looking for exhortations to violence and murder as well?
 |  Which group predicates killing "infidels" on the word of their book and carries out the same to greater effect in our present day and age (or at any time in the last 50 years)? 
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		|  09-29-2006, 02:33 PM | #2375 |  
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		| Originally posted by Penske_Account Which group predicates killing "infidels" on the word of their book and carries out the same to greater effect in our present day and age (or at any time in the last 50 years)?
 |  All that means is that I was right yesterday when I said more people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason, and it's still happening today.
 
It doesn't change the fact that we worship the same God as muslims.
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		| Originally posted by Penske_Account Which group predicates killing "infidels" on the word of their book and carries out the same to greater effect in our present day and age (or at any time in the last 50 years)?
 |   the Japanese used to Kamikaze airplanes, now they won't even cook a fish. so there's hope still.
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		|  09-29-2006, 02:46 PM | #2377 |  
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		| taxwonk Six surah out of 114.  And your source doesn't quote a single one of them.  Shall we go through the Bible looking for exhortations to violence and murder as well?
 |  Stop being an idiot.
 
Name one leading Christian minister or Jewish Rabbi who calls for the death of non-believers in accordance with the Bible?
 
Whereas I can point you to the words of over ten Imams this very week alone. |  
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		| Originally posted by taxwonk It doesn't change the fact that we worship the same God as muslims.
 |  And that doesn't change the fact that millions of them would like to see your bloody head on a pike. |  
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		|  09-29-2006, 02:49 PM | #2379 |  
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		| Originally posted by SlaveNoMore Stop being an idiot.
 
 Name one leading Christian minister or Jewish Rabbi who calls for the death of non-believers in accordance with the Bible?
 
 Whereas I can point you to the words of over ten Imams this very week alone.
 |  Start with Luther. |  
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		| Originally posted by taxwonk All that means is that I was right yesterday when I said more people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason, and it's still happening today.
 
 It doesn't change the fact that we worship the same God as muslims.
 |  so what, stop being an idiot, what matters is the specific context. In the present day, the number of people being killed or oppressed in the name of a Judeo-Christian god pales in comparison to the number being killed in the name of Allah.  If you think that there is a moral equivalency between bin Laden and JImmy Swaggart etc et al you are  more delusional than the elitist demo-socialists you support.
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		|  09-29-2006, 02:57 PM | #2381 |  
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		| Originally posted by SlaveNoMore Stop being an idiot.
 
 Name one leading Christian minister or Jewish Rabbi who calls for the death of non-believers in accordance with the Bible?
 
 Whereas I can point you to the words of over ten Imams this very week alone.
 |  Well, if you acccept Penske as a credible source, David Koresh.  Then there's Matt Hale.  John Birch.  I'm not positive, but I think Benjamin Nathaniel Smith is also a minister of the Church of the Creator.
 
If you want to go back in history, then there's Torquemada, Henry VIII of England, Philip I of Spain.
 
I'm afraid the only rabbi I can think of in contemporary times is Meir Kahane.
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		|  09-29-2006, 02:57 PM | #2382 |  
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy Start with Luther.
 |  Do you have cite to a quote he has made in the last 100 years where he said soemthing of the sort Slave noted? Otherwise you lose for relevancy.
 
eta: ps: do you have a cite to a quote that one of his followers has made in the last 100 years where such follower said soemthing of the sort Slave noted and predicated that statement on Luther's influence, guidance, or authority etc.
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		|  09-29-2006, 02:58 PM | #2383 |  
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		| Originally posted by SlaveNoMore Stop being an idiot.
 
 Name one leading Christian minister or Jewish Rabbi who calls for the death of non-believers in accordance with the Bible?
 |  Do you mean to ignore a millenium of history?  Choose a pope from the 9th to 16th century.
 
You may also select any of the christian ministers in Salem.
 
And Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell have gotten pretty close.
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		| Originally posted by SlaveNoMore And that doesn't change the fact that millions of them would like to see your bloody head on a pike.
 |  Millions of you wanted to see my ancestors' bloody heads on pikes for the last couple thousand years.  After a while, you learn not to take it personally.
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		|  09-29-2006, 03:00 PM | #2385 |  
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		| Originally posted by taxwonk Well, if you acccept Penske as a credible source, David Koresh.  Then there's Matt Hale.  John Birch.  I'm not positive, but I think Benjamin Nathaniel Smith is also a minister of the Church of the Creator.
 
 If you want to go back in history, then there's Torquemada, Henry VIII of England, Philip I of Spain.
 
 I'm afraid the only rabbi I can think of in contemporary times is Meir Kahane.
 |  going back in history is irrelevant at this point and you know it. Context. Stop being stupid.
 
As for the relatively contemporary people you cite, tally the head count of deaths that rest on their shoulders or as result of their words.  Compare it just to the deaths on September 11, and then justify your twisted moral equivalency.
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