Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Looks like Flynn has declined to comply with the Senate's subpoena of documents in the Russia collusion investigation. Now I need a litigator to explain this to me. Is Flynn's plan to just eat whatever jail time he's assessed because he's loyal to Trump? Is he negotiating by refusing to comply with this subpoena until the Senate grants him immunity?

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

This thread is disturbingly strong, which I say never having seen the show.

This is amazing.

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

He turned 30% of the population into fearful and angry misanthropes.

“I created a TV network for people 55 to dead,” Ailes boasted to us. “Nobody believed it could be done, but I did it. It’s for guys who sit on their couch with the remote all day and night.” That seemed a condescending way to talk about his audience—not to mention, much of the Republican base—but it was fascinating anyway.

“And they don’t want to see anyone like you,” he continued, looking directly at me. I wasn’t sure whether he meant a liberal, or a brunette newswoman in a dark pantsuit. “They don’t want to see you — they don’t even want to know that you exist!” And he was obliging them: he’d created a world where women were blonde and wore short tight skirts, men were in charge, and articulate, principled, complicated liberals – especially women — didn’t exist.

My only meeting with Roger Ailes

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Looks like Flynn has declined to comply with the Senate's subpoena of documents in the Russia collusion investigation. Now I need a litigator to explain this to me. Is Flynn's plan to just eat whatever jail time he's assessed because he's loyal to Trump? Is he negotiating by refusing to comply with this subpoena until the Senate grants him immunity?

TM

When does Trump pull out the pardon pen?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

When does Trump pull out the pardon pen?

That would be a good way to force Flynn to testify...

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

When does Trump pull out the pardon pen?

"Several sources close to Flynn and to the administration tell The Daily Beast that Trump has expressed his hopes that a resolution of the FBI’s investigation in Flynn’s favor might allow Flynn to rejoin the White House in some capacity—a scenario some of Trump’s closest advisers in and outside the West Wing have assured him absolutely should not happen."

link

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

My only meeting with Roger Ailes

He is on the short list of people most responsible for modern America's vicious and bloodthirsty character.

We are a hate-filled, paranoid, untrusting, book-dumb and bilious people whose chief source of recreation is slinging insults and threats at each other online, and we're that way in large part because of the hyper-divisive media environment he discovered.

Ailes was the Christopher Columbus of hate. When the former daytime TV executive and political strategist looked across the American continent, he saw money laying around in giant piles. He knew all that was needed to pick it up was a) the total abandonment of any sense of decency or civic duty in the news business, and b) the factory-like production of news stories that spoke to Americans' worst fantasies about each other.

Matt Taibbi

[SEC_Chick]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

First, I know I am late to the party on this, but are you fucking serious? "That you may not do." I see you kind of hinted that you were "just joking" but I'm buying that about as much as I'm buying that that McCarthy was "just joking" about Putin paying Trump. Speaking of which, can someone (SEC Chick?) explain to my how Ryan should not be immediately removed from office for trying to ensure secrecy about this issue, regardless of the merits or truthfulness or "jokiness" of McCarthy's comments? Serious question -- I hate the guy so I cannot put myself into a mindset where I could imagine defending him. So someone . . . give me the pitch. Why is this something that should be overlooked?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.29abe50f594e

I am not the person to defend anything about the GOP now. Though I will say that it seems the McCarthy conversation was leaked by Evan McMullin, and that from what I understand there was indeed repeated audible laughter. At first I was thinking that McCarthy was lucky as heck that the "special councel" was appointed right after the story broke. But As anti-Trump and anti-GOP establishment as I now am, my understanding is that it was, indeed, a piss poor joke.

Good Lord, do I hate Trump.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

I am not the person to defend anything about the GOP now. Though I will say that it seems the McCarthy conversation was leaked by Evan McMullin, and that from what I understand there was indeed repeated audible laughter. At first I was thinking that McCarthy was lucky as heck that the "special councel" was appointed right after the story broke. But As anti-Trump and anti-GOP establishment as I now am, my understanding is that it was, indeed, a piss poor joke.

Good Lord, do I hate Trump.

As Brian Beutler wrote at The New Republic, the truly damning thing about that tape is that it shows that the Republican leadership knew that Russia was trying to help Trump, and yet -- feigning ignorance and disbelief -- they opposed the Obama Administration doing anything about it. Party over country.

eta: https://newrepublic.com/article/1427...-scandal-trump

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Matt Taibbi

Also, this thread.

[SEC_Chick]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

As Brian Beutler wrote at The New Republic, the truly damning thing about that tape is that it shows that the Republican leadership knew that Russia was trying to help Trump, and yet -- feigning ignorance and disbelief -- they opposed the Obama Administration doing anything about it. Party over country.

eta: https://newrepublic.com/article/1427...-scandal-trump

And it seems there is palpable fear in the GOP that Evan McMullin may have taped more meetings, and may be waiting for an opportune time to leak them.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

I am not the person to defend anything about the GOP now. Though I will say that it seems the McCarthy conversation was leaked by Evan McMullin, and that from what I understand there was indeed repeated audible laughter. At first I was thinking that McCarthy was lucky as heck that the "special councel" was appointed right after the story broke. But As anti-Trump and anti-GOP establishment as I now am, my understanding is that it was, indeed, a piss poor joke.

Good Lord, do I hate Trump.

It may be unclear from the transcript whether or not it was a joke, but if it was, why did Ryan attempt to emphasize the need for secrecy, which did NOT appear to be a joke? And if just a joke, why did Ryan's aides lie to the press and say the quotes were fabricated? It was not until they were caught in the lie (when they learned that an audio tape existed), that they changed the story to: "We were just joking around." None of Ryan's actions are consistent with someone who thought this was just some off-the-cuff humor. They are consistent with someone trying to hide something. You don't a fucking special prosecutor to see that.

In the midst of all this fucking insanity, here is some nice African funk. The Rwenzoris. "Handsome Boy (E Wara) (Parts 1&2)." The Daily Dose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdRQT-OVxZE

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

I am not the person to defend anything about the GOP now. Though I will say that it seems the McCarthy conversation was leaked by Evan McMullin, and that from what I understand there was indeed repeated audible laughter. At first I was thinking that McCarthy was lucky as heck that the "special councel" was appointed right after the story broke. But As anti-Trump and anti-GOP establishment as I now am, my understanding is that it was, indeed, a piss poor joke.

Good Lord, do I hate Trump.

Of course it was a joke, even if it was a joke only a flunky could laugh at.

The thing is, what makes it potentially funny at all is the idea that its possible. If I said, hey SEC is probably in the pay of the Russians every time she posts here, I couldn't even get a laugh from my flunkies.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

And it seems there is palpable fear in the GOP that Evan McMullin may have taped more meetings, and may be waiting for an opportune time to leak them.

Cool.

Is he going to take Chaffetz' seat?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Cool.

Is he going to take Chaffetz' seat?

I'm more interested in who will chair the House Oversight Committee.