Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Drunk doctor deposition - wait til he identifies himself for the record. https://youtu.be/rFIrB-fdkLA

He may be a lousy doctor, wretched husband, awful witness, frightening uber driver, and incompetent elevator operator, but I think we'd all be happy if he were made President tomorrow.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

So is someone compiling a list of Bernie Bro reporters who turn out to be into serial sexual assault?

Who would have guessed?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

I'm thinking of going as a Trump supporter for Halloween. I've got the tiki torch, but does anyone have a confederate flag I can borrow? Sebby?

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I'm thinking of going as a Trump supporter for Halloween. I've got the tiki torch, but does anyone have a confederate flag I can borrow? Sebby?

Come on, man. That kind of hyperbole is beneath you.

You can probably find more than a few within an hour’s drive from your office. Heck, take the T to Dorchester. I bet one of My People* has one in his front yard.

Alternatively, I’m headed to the Ancestral Homeland this weekend. I’ll let you know if I find one up there.

*A reference my AOH shanty-Irish Catholic background. I used it recently on Twitter when someone said that the Boston Irish Catholics that General Kelly grew up with were Not Racist. (Other than that whole busing thing in the 1970s, amirite?

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

So is someone compiling a list of Bernie Bro reporters who turn out to be into serial sexual assault?

Who would have guessed?

Everywhere. An awful lot of men everywhere. We’re mostly hearing about the famous ones, as Annie Lowery notes.

I now accept that rape culture is a real thing.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Come on, man. That kind of hyperbole is beneath you.

I promise you, it is not.

Luckily I don't need to borrow Sebby's dockers and khakis for the outfit, I've got those covered.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Everywhere. An awful lot of men everywhere. We’re mostly hearing about the famous ones, as Annie Lowery notes.

I now accept that rape culture is a real thing.

In general, when these issues are discussed I think there is too much of a focus on the women (even when the focus is entirely sympathetic) and too little on the fact that men keep doing this stuff. I guess one thing I wonder is, how many men are the problem? 1% 10% 30% 50% Not sure how one could really tell, either.

[sgtclub]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

In general, when these issues are discussed I think there is too much of a focus on the women (even when the focus is entirely sympathetic) and too little on the fact that men keep doing this stuff. I guess one thing I wonder is, how many men are the problem? 1% 10% 30% 50% Not sure how one could really tell, either.

It depends on the degree. 1% for rape. 99% for the attitude in some form or another.

We had an interesting discussion about something related last night. The gist was that men are also the victims of sexual harassment, but that because of societal biases (what man would ever say no?) and the fact that the unspoken physical domination threat is not present (a guy doesn't really fear rape) it does not get the same attention. The wife did not believe that I or my buddy who was there could ever have had an unwanted advance, but both of us had.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Wow.

If the Dems don't win either the House or the Senate in 2018, I think this country (as we know it) is over.

TM

The decline started in 1981.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Usually it goes the other way. Black associates at large firms find themselves on the outside of the power pipeline (and the related social dynamic) and move (i) in-house, which (although not exactly where it should be) is light years ahead of law firms when it comes to diversity, especially big ones or (ii) to smaller firms with better records with diversity even though the paychecks are smaller.

What I don't understand is why firms don't raid law school night school programs. The people there are often diverse, have worked all their lives (including through school--and the class load is like 1 fewer per semester while the curriculum and professors are exactly the same), and would be completely loyal to any law firm that brought them in.

I had the opportunity to talk to Disney's GC about what I thought would be an innovative way to bring in more diversity to his outside counsel and mentioned this. Of course he said he was the product of a night school law school education and seemed like he thought it to be a good idea. I don't understand the stigma attached to it. But it's there. Can any of you who worked at a large firm (hell, or any firm) name one person who came from night school? This idea that the best talent comes from the most elite schools is a joke. Our firm's partnership adheres to this delusion and there are very few partners who went to elite schools! There is a real disconnect about how people process themselves versus everyone else.

TM

You and I went to the same school (though not knowingly at the same time). I went nights but managed to finish in 3 years by going summers. I was in a study group with an older black woman. She did very well. She went to a top biglaw firm. A few of the other people who went to night school -- at least started there -- went to biglaw firms.

The weirdest thing ever is when in some huge fucking case she and I were across the table from each other at a deposition. After that, she went in house.

Not really in touch with her anymore because I refuse to have anything to do with anything from law school because every god damned request they ever make is one that ends with a request for money.

Me, I got shit on by every biglaw law firm that interviewed at my school. Then I did an interview with a plaintiff's firm and I am imagining that was like coming out of the closet may be. You suddenly realize that something about what your were living was just wrong.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

Mother, do you think they'll drop the bomb?

Ooh, aah, mother, should I build the wall?

Mother, should I run for president?

Mother, should I trust the government?

Ooh, aah, is it just a waste of time?

Winner/Winner/Chicken Dinner.

I salute you.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I promise you, it is not.

Luckily I don't need to borrow Sebby's dockers and khakis for the outfit, I've got those covered.

This a serious fucking question, and I want you to think long and hard before answering: Did you you just accuse me of owning Dockers?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

In general, when these issues are discussed I think there is too much of a focus on the women (even when the focus is entirely sympathetic) and too little on the fact that men keep doing this stuff. I guess one thing I wonder is, how many men are the problem? 1% 10% 30% 50% Not sure how one could really tell, either.

37.4%. Next question?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by sgtclub

It depends on the degree. 1% for rape. 99% for the attitude in some form or another.

We had an interesting discussion about something related last night. The gist was that men are also the victims of sexual harassment, but that because of societal biases (what man would ever say no?) and the fact that the unspoken physical domination threat is not present (a guy doesn't really fear rape) it does not get the same attention. The wife did not believe that I or my buddy who was there could ever have had an unwanted advance, but both of us had.

Idk about you, but I doubt any guy here who's been hit on has felt harassed. From female bosses, co-workers, gay, straight, it's ego inflation. When guys do it to women, it's different. It's got more of a dominance and demeaning thing to it.

Men do, however, face a form of sexual discrimination from other men that's rarely discussed. I've seen insecure partners hate the shit out of younger associates with, how shall we say it... more native charisma, looks, and confidence. If you're a kid of even moderately attractive appearance and some personality, and you work for the wrong kinda-soft, insecure partner early in your career, or some older partner who's feeling his virility and power ebbing, you can get fucked over pretty hard. The fragility of the male ego can't be overstated.

[Hank Chinaski]

So I don't know if Gurriel should be suspended, or just criticized. It was pretty awful, but I just don't know what has happened in the past. I don't mean when Jackie R broke in, I mean the last few years. I do know that suspending for a few of the first regular season games is silly, and actually a bit of an insult itself. "Yes, suspension is in order, but let's do a meaningless one?" This is not the NFL season.