All Hank, all the time.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
At that price, I think I like the Cline syrah more.

Ditto. Cline syrah's not bad.

I had this:



Mmmmm.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Put the kids in the building and then made the building a target in order to dupe the Israeli's into bombing what seemed like a legit target and in the process take out the kids. Don't be naive.

It's too bad that you've been reduced to peddling unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. It's bad enough that Hezbollah is launching missiles from civilian areas.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Gattigap
So I've read some of this stuff but not all of it, and I'm having a hard time sorting out what DID happen. Is it that:

* Israel hit an adjacent building, and the building with the kids soon collapsed thereafter. Hezbollah then staged photos of the actually dead kids to maximize outrage.

or

* Israel's actions didn't even lead to the death of the kids. Hezollah killed their own people. Oh, and then staged photos of the dead kids.

or

* Kids are still alive, and the whole thing was staged.

I'm happy to stipulate that it's us against them, and my God, but they're evil fuckers and we're gonna bomb them into oblivion, but since you're speaking with some confidence about there being "no rationale for what Hezbollah did with these kids," I was hoping you could let us know what it was they did do, so I can set my outrage meter appropriately.

Thanks in advance!

Gattigap

Given that they are terrorist killers is there a justifiable rationale for anything they do? Sadly, the American left, Ward Churchill, the Euros and the UN work overtime to find a way to legitimise these groups at the expense of freedom, the US and Israel.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I had a nice Cline old vines Zin last night. Young. 2005. Chocolate, blackberry, spicy. A little fruit forward and a tad too much alcohol, but ot bad for about $10.

not to call bullshit and all, but my wife isn't even aware of wine for sale below $25 a bottle.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
[It's not what they do, it's what they are.]

Figured. Thanks.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Given that they are terrorist killers is there a justifiable rationale for anything they do? Sadly, the American left, Ward Churchill, the Euros and the UN work overtime to find a way to legitimise these groups at the expense of freedom, the US and Israel.

Given the respective number of civilians killed by Hezbollah and Israel in the last few weeks, what exactly is it that makes Hezbollah "terrorists" but not the IDF?

Not a rhetorical question, and not a defense of Hezbollah.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Given the respective number of civilians killed by Hezbollah and Israel in the last few weeks, what exactly is it that makes Hezbollah "terrorists" but not the IDF?

See my post from yesterday. Among other things, one wears uniforms and has not been charged with using civilians as shields.

This is not to say, however, that whining "Waah - you're not fighting fair!" is an effective way to fight terrorists.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Ditto. Cline syrah's not bad.

I had this:



Mmmmm.

wake up call to Ty. A guy who makes the decision to buy coppola wine makes the same decision as you in the voting booth.

Hey Gattigap, you know Madonna's dad, Paul ciccone, makes wine too. you should drink that!

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It's too bad that you've been reduced to peddling unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. It's bad enough that Hezbollah is launching missiles from civilian areas.

Is that blog substantiated? I'll stick with Haraatz (sic) and other mainstream media from democratic countries (like my cites to NEWSpapers).

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
wake up call to Ty. A guy who makes the decision to buy coppola wine makes the same decision as you in the voting booth.

I don't care for the zinfandel, but the Coppola claret is good stuff, especially at Costco's prices. And their Rosso is decent at $7/bottle.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
wake up call to Ty. A guy who makes the decision to buy coppola wine makes the same decision as you in the voting booth.

Hey Gattigap, you know Madonna's mom makes wine too. you should drink that!

I'm no oenophile, but even I know that the Coppola wines have been getting some respect.

Not sure that news has made it to Detroit, though, so - meh.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
not to call bullshit and all, but my wife isn't even aware of wine for sale below $25 a bottle.

Sometimes I swtich prize tags. Her palatte is not that refined, present company excepted. No offence.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Is that blog substantiated? I'll stick with Haraatz (sic) and other mainstream media from democratic countries (like my cites to NEWSpapers).

(1) The blog is the Washington Post's, so it counts as mainstream media.

(2) The Jerusalem Post said the conspiracy theories were coming from bloggers.

(3) Nothing you've put up yet has been "substantiated" in the sense that English-speaking people using the word. I keep waiting for Spanky to come around and kick your ass for saying these things, since I know he cares strongly about such epistomological matters, but maybe he's on vacation or something.

If Israeli bombs didn't kill those kids, who did?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Is that blog substantiated? I'll stick with Haraatz (sic) and other mainstream media from democratic countries (like my cites to NEWSpapers).

he starts with a bad number of dead- Ty you know the Red Cross cuts the number dead in half? do you ever ask yourself how you can continue to read and buy into this propaganda?

• The Red Cross published that 28 corpses were evacuated from Qana, 19 of which were children. The report clashes with the Lebanese report that 57 people were killed.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Figured. Thanks.

They are killers and international criminals. What part of that do you defend or justify? Was Hitler justified? When someone rapes a 5 year old is that somehow justified (maybe, it was good enough for Mohammed???)???

Why do you feel the need to justify terrorists? They represent very clearly who they are and what defines their identity, what part of it do you like or agree with?