Politics: A new beginning - Page 176

Tyrone Slothrop · 12-09-2003, 05:22 PM

The looming health crisis.

More current events than politics, but it's scary, and involves a big government fuck-up.

Not Me · 12-09-2003, 05:37 PM

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hilden/20031209.html

Above link to article. While I don't agree with this twit's legal analysis, I did find the story interesting and amusing. I particularily was amused by the Dallas Observer's "retraction" of the article"

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On November 18, the Observer published the following comment on the article: "Here's a clue for our cerebrally-challenged readers who thought the story was real: It wasn't. It was a joke. We made it up. Not even Judge Whitten, we hope, would throw a 6-year-old girl in the slammer for writing a book report. Not yet, anyway."

bilmore · 12-09-2003, 05:39 PM

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The looming health crisis.

More current events than politics, but it's scary, and involves a big government fuck-up.

Strikes me as more of a drug company fuck-up. One that will likely end their role in deciding production levels, to some extent. (But, that will mean we guarantee their profits, I suspect.)

sgtclub · 12-09-2003, 05:39 PM

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Dead.

The singer?

SlaveNoMore · 12-09-2003, 05:41 PM

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Paul Simon Dead.

I'm sure Art Garfunkel's accountant will be happy to know that you mean the late Senator, and not the former Mr. Brickell

Not Me · 12-09-2003, 05:53 PM

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The singer?

If it had been the singer, I would have posted on the FB, not here.

Tyrone Slothrop · 12-09-2003, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Strikes me as more of a drug company fuck-up. One that will likely end their role in deciding production levels, to some extent. (But, that will mean we guarantee their profits, I suspect.)

Public health is a government responsibility. The drug companies probably acted rationally, but there are massive externalities here not reflected in their pricing. After 9/11 and the anthrax episodes (remember that?), there was some attention paid to our lousy public health system, but I suspect it led to little real change. I'm not saying that any one government official made a bad decision -- I'm saying that government, collectively, has failed us in one of its basic missions.

Tyrone Slothrop · 12-09-2003, 05:57 PM

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If it had been the singer, I would have posted on the FB, not here.

Though you could point out that the bowtie look died a long time ago.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 12-09-2003, 05:58 PM

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If it had been the singer, I would have posted on the FB, not here.

Yeah, that "Sen." is so tough to type, and thereby prevent scurrying to CNN to resolved the ambiguity.

ltl/fb · 12-09-2003, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Public health is a government responsibility. The drug companies probably acted rationally, but there are massive externalities here not reflected in their pricing. After 9/11 and the anthrax episodes (remember that?), there was some attention paid to our lousy public health system, but I suspect it led to little real change. I'm not saying that any one government official made a bad decision -- I'm saying that government, collectively, has failed us in one of its basic missions.

Um, Ty, have you not read the Medicare bill? Government should not get involved in setting production or prices of any type of drug/medicine. People need to take care of their own public health. The market will provide. Keep your eye on the invisible hand.

Tyrone Slothrop · 12-09-2003, 07:35 PM

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Um, Ty, have you not read the Medicare bill? Government should not get involved in setting production or prices of any type of drug/medicine. People need to take care of their own public health. The market will provide. Keep your eye on the invisible hand.

1905 -- Lochner v. New York
1917-18 -- influenza pandemic kills millions
1937 -- West Coast Hotel v. Parrish

It took the Court a little while to react, but it's not the most democratic institution (small d, though big D appropriate too, then).

ltl/fb · 12-09-2003, 07:40 PM

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1905 -- Lochner v. New York
1917-18 -- influenza pandemic kills millions
1937 -- West Coast Hotel v. Parrish

It took the Court a little while to react, but it's not the most democratic institution (small d, though big D appropriate too, then).

Ty, those millions should have taken personal responsibility for their health. Just like people should take personal responsibility not to spend time in places that might be attractive targets for terrorists.

Atticus Grinch · 12-09-2003, 07:51 PM

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Just like people should take personal responsibility not to spend time in places that might be attractive targets for terrorists.

Agreed. Which is why this is my 13th straight year of not enlisting in the Army Reserve. I'm all about personal responsibility.

sgtclub · 12-09-2003, 08:17 PM

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Ty, those millions should have taken personal responsibility for their health. Just like people should take personal responsibility not to spend time in places that might be attractive targets for terrorists.

Yes, let's publitize the whole damn system.

Not Me · 12-09-2003, 08:31 PM

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Agreed. Which is why this is my 13th straight year of not enlisting in the Army Reserve. I'm all about personal responsibility.

Man, are the reservist kicking themselves or what? I bet most of them never dreamed that they would get sent to fight a full-blown war on foreign soil and then occupy/liberate the people.

Most probably thought that they would be kept state-side while the full-time military types were sent to fight.

How much money a month does an average reservist make? Anyone know?