Politics: Onward from New Hampshire - Page 182

bilmore · 03-02-2004, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
I'll ask another time: What did I say earlier that makes this a shift? C'mon -- show your cards.

You want me to go back and find specific posts you made about Bush and the amendment issue? So I can prove my point that you were not saying "while I have to respect Bush's strongly held religious views, I abhor his expression of them"?

If that was truly what you were saying over the last few days, then I really missed something. I thought that, like most of us, you were saying something closer to "what a schmuck". The "respect for religion" thing just seems . . . very new.

sgtclub · 03-02-2004, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Poor reading. AR = "serve life", not "serve self".

I think she would say that serve self = serve life

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-02-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Drudge is reporting a landslide

Drudge is also linking to this, which strikes me as a far more compelling use of the EPC, and one that doesn't support polygamy, except perhaps in Not Me's mind.

Not Me · 03-02-2004, 05:51 PM

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...rriage-Ne.html

N.Y. Town's Mayor Charged in Gay Weddings

NEW PALTZ, N.Y. (AP)--The village's mayor was charged Tuesday with 19 criminal counts for performing marriage ceremonies for gay couples.

Jason West was charged with solemnizing marriages without a license, a misdemeanor under the domestic relations law, according to Ulster County District Attorney Donald Williams. Although West could face a maximum penalty of a year in jail, Williams said a jail term wasn't being contemplated at this point.

bilmore · 03-02-2004, 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I think she would say that serve self = serve life

True. I was oversimplifying, in that objectivism does allow for self-sacrifice for self-principle.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-02-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...rriage-Ne.html

N.Y. Town's Mayor Charged in Gay Weddings

NEW PALTZ, N.Y. (AP)--The village's mayor was charged Tuesday with 19 criminal counts for performing marriage ceremonies for gay couples.

Jason West was charged with solemnizing marriages without a license, a misdemeanor under the domestic relations law, according to Ulster County District Attorney Donald Williams. Although West could face a maximum penalty of a year in jail, Williams said a jail term wasn't being contemplated at this point.

Well, Club got his wish.

bilmore · 03-02-2004, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Well, Club got his wish.

Best line in one of the articles:

"It also coincides with increasing pressure on State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, who last week refused a call by the governor to prevent and nullify the marriages, to step in and issue some clarifying words on the complex legal issues at play. "

Poor Elliot. This has the potential of really messing with his carefully scripted PR campaign.

Tyrone Slothrop · 03-02-2004, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
You want me to go back and find specific posts you made about Bush and the amendment issue? So I can prove my point that you were not saying "while I have to respect Bush's strongly held religious views, I abhor his expression of them"?

If that was truly what you were saying over the last few days, then I really missed something. I thought that, like most of us, you were saying something closer to "what a schmuck". The "respect for religion" thing just seems . . . very new.

I am only trying to figure out what you are thinking of, because I don't recall saying anything different. I think I wasn't posting much about what I thought about the FMA because everyone here -- with the possible exception of Not Me -- appears agin' it. And I've never thought it reflects Bush's personal views -- I've always thought that he endorsed it for political reasons.

I don't know what you think my views about religion are, but I go to church. I just don't see much reason to talk about it here.

Sometimes it gets tiring to talk to you -- it's tough to get a word in when you're busy arguing with this caricature of my views.

Atticus Grinch · 03-02-2004, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
I don't know what you think my views about religion are, but I go to church. I just don't see much reason to talk about it here.

Hoowuddathunk you went wrong with Bilmore by not posting about your sincerely held religious beliefs?

SlaveNoMore · 03-02-2004, 06:40 PM

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sgtclub
Drudge is reporting a landslide

"President Clinton was often known as the first black president. I wouldn't be upset if I could earn the right to be the second," John Kerry told the American Urban Radio Network.

To think that this schmoe has a legit shot at the Presidency. Shudder.

sgtclub · 03-02-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
"President Clinton was often known as the first black president. I wouldn't be upset if I could earn the right to be the second," John Kerry told the American Urban Radio Network.

To think that this schmoe has a legit shot at the Presidency. Shudder.

This just highlights how out of touch he is with the black community. Perhaps the only candidate whiter than John Kerry was Bush '41.

The Larry Davis Experience · 03-02-2004, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
This just highlights how out of touch he is with the black community. Perhaps the only candidate whiter than John Kerry was Bush '41.

At this very moment David Duke is ironing a sheet and wondering what he has to do to get some f-ing respect around here.

Not Me · 03-02-2004, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
This just highlights how out of touch he is with the black community. Perhaps the only candidate whiter than John Kerry was Bush '41.

Isn't Kerry one of the ones who suddenly found out he had jewish great grandparents or grandparents who converted to catholicism when they fled europe from the nazis?

If so, the black community is pretty anti-semetic so I doubt that they would embrace him as they embraced Clinton.

sgtclub · 03-02-2004, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
At this very moment David Duke is ironing a sheet and wondering what he has to do to get some f-ing respect around here.

That was fucking funny.

David Duke, though, is not as white as GHWB. White has nothing to do with being a racist.

Dave · 03-02-2004, 07:52 PM

CNN says Dean wins Vermont. If it were any other state, you could say that not campaigning might have been the better idea.