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07-25-2013, 01:42 PM
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#2881
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Re: Because who doesn't like a little Meze with Eva?
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
I don't. i wouldn't touch one. my work all has legs and a retainer runs out before the work obligations do.
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Just double your rate and accept that you'll discount or write off 20% of what you bill.
Of course, this is exactly what the printers do, too.
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07-26-2013, 10:59 AM
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#2882
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Re: Because who doesn't like a little Meze with Eva?
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Originally Posted by Flinty_McFlint
Bankruptcy costs money. They just sell the aeron chairs and turn the lights off for the next startup.
It's a living.
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A small business that can afford an 11 can probably afford to stay in business without it.
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07-26-2013, 11:08 AM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Re: Because who doesn't like a little Meze with Eva?
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Originally Posted by Flinty_McFlint
Bankruptcy costs money. They just sell the aeron chairs and turn the lights off for the next startup.
It's a living.
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are there often sushi fixins left in the company fridge? PLF can probably get a discount on that stuff for his dinner parties.
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10-11-2013, 10:42 AM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: It was the wrong thread
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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10-25-2013, 12:21 AM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: It was the wrong thread
Scenario:
A woman approached the podium and began reading her letter in opposition to an item. Amongst her objections was the fact that the applicant lacked a necessary state license to engage in the business it proposed to conduct. Her letter made much of the fact that she was both a neighbor and a California attorney, and ended ominously with the threat that any approval of the project was "the tip of the legal iceberg" since the decision makers would all be sued (naturally) if they were so foolhardy as to proceed despite her dire and well-founded warning.
As she spoke I checked the state bar website and determined that this "California attorney" has been on inactive status since July for failure to pay bar dues.
I don't typically interject to correct errors of fact or law by public speakers because to do so would mean there would never be time left for the second speaker. But do I have a duty to send a copy of the letter to the state bar? I don't really give a shit, but if others think there's a professional duty implicated I would respect that.
Potentially relevant is that based on her address she's rich as fuuuuuuuuck and could definitely buy me and sell me several times over.
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10-25-2013, 06:21 AM
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Re: It was the wrong thread
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch
Scenario:
A woman approached the podium and began reading her letter in opposition to an item. Amongst her objections was the fact that the applicant lacked a necessary state license to engage in the business it proposed to conduct. Her letter made much of the fact that she was both a neighbor and a California attorney, and ended ominously with the threat that any approval of the project was "the tip of the legal iceberg" since the decision makers would all be sued (naturally) if they were so foolhardy as to proceed despite her dire and well-founded warning.
As she spoke I checked the state bar website and determined that this "California attorney" has been on inactive status since July for failure to pay bar dues.
I don't typically interject to correct errors of fact or law by public speakers because to do so would mean there would never be time left for the second speaker. But do I have a duty to send a copy of the letter to the state bar? I don't really give a shit, but if others think there's a professional duty implicated I would respect that.
Potentially relevant is that based on her address she's rich as fuuuuuuuuck and could definitely buy me and sell me several times over.
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Is an inactive attorney still an attorney for bragging sake? Likely yes. But if she signs a pleading, different story.
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10-25-2013, 09:18 AM
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Re: It was the wrong thread
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch
Scenario:
A woman approached the podium and began reading her letter in opposition to an item. Amongst her objections was the fact that the applicant lacked a necessary state license to engage in the business it proposed to conduct. Her letter made much of the fact that she was both a neighbor and a California attorney, and ended ominously with the threat that any approval of the project was "the tip of the legal iceberg" since the decision makers would all be sued (naturally) if they were so foolhardy as to proceed despite her dire and well-founded warning.
As she spoke I checked the state bar website and determined that this "California attorney" has been on inactive status since July for failure to pay bar dues.
I don't typically interject to correct errors of fact or law by public speakers because to do so would mean there would never be time left for the second speaker. But do I have a duty to send a copy of the letter to the state bar? I don't really give a shit, but if others think there's a professional duty implicated I would respect that.
Potentially relevant is that based on her address she's rich as fuuuuuuuuck and could definitely buy me and sell me several times over.
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You are right to not give a shit.
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10-25-2013, 10:00 AM
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Re: It was the wrong thread
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump
Is an inactive attorney still an attorney for bragging sake? Likely yes. But if she signs a pleading, different story.
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Business and Professions Code § 6126(a): “Any person advertising or holding himself or herself out as practicing or entitled to practice law or otherwise practicing law who is not an active member of the State Bar, or otherwise authorized pursuant to statute or court rule to practice law in this state at the time of doing so, is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in a county jail or by a fine of up to one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment.”
Not sure it meets this standard.
Does her assertion of being a California attorney materially mislead whatever body was evaluating her letter and argument?
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10-25-2013, 10:11 AM
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Re: It was the wrong thread
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch
Scenario:
A woman approached the podium and began reading her letter in opposition to an item. Amongst her objections was the fact that the applicant lacked a necessary state license to engage in the business it proposed to conduct. Her letter made much of the fact that she was both a neighbor and a California attorney, and ended ominously with the threat that any approval of the project was "the tip of the legal iceberg" since the decision makers would all be sued (naturally) if they were so foolhardy as to proceed despite her dire and well-founded warning.
As she spoke I checked the state bar website and determined that this "California attorney" has been on inactive status since July for failure to pay bar dues.
I don't typically interject to correct errors of fact or law by public speakers because to do so would mean there would never be time left for the second speaker. But do I have a duty to send a copy of the letter to the state bar? I don't really give a shit, but if others think there's a professional duty implicated I would respect that.
Potentially relevant is that based on her address she's rich as fuuuuuuuuck and could definitely buy me and sell me several times over.
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Send an anonymous letter with her letter enclosed. That way the ARDC can determine if she's in trouble and it can't be traced back to you. But only do this if she's a cunt.
ETA: I guess only Illinois calls it the "Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission".
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Last edited by Did you just call me Coltrane?; 10-25-2013 at 10:14 AM..
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10-25-2013, 08:00 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 10,117
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Re: It was the wrong thread
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Business and Professions Code § 6126(a): “Any person advertising or holding himself or herself out as practicing or entitled to practice law or otherwise practicing law who is not an active member of the State Bar, or otherwise authorized pursuant to statute or court rule to practice law in this state at the time of doing so, is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in a county jail or by a fine of up to one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment.”
Not sure it meets this standard.
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Really? "I'm an attorney" is definitely holding oneself out as entitled to practice law, doncha think? And "I'm a California attorney" removes all wiggle room for "*Admitted in Illinois"? All of the best arguments for NOT calling in air strikes are ones of proportionality, not essence.
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Does her assertion of being a California attorney materially mislead whatever body was evaluating her letter and argument?
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ˇAbsolutamente no! No one in this business pays any mind to the "I will sue you if you grant this permit" talk. It's the subject of a statutory immunity, so it's water off a duck's back.
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10-25-2013, 08:02 PM
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#2891
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: It was the wrong thread
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
You are right to not give a shit.
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This is the argument carrying a majority of the colleagues I've asked.
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02-19-2014, 03:24 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: It was the wrong thread
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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02-20-2014, 12:03 AM
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#2893
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: It was the wrong thread
"One warm spring night in 2011, a young man named Travis Hughes stood on the back deck of the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity house at Marshall University, in West Virginia, and was struck by what seemed to him—under the influence of powerful inebriants, not least among them the clear ether of youth itself—to be an excellent idea: he would shove a bottle rocket up his ass and blast it into the sweet night air. And perhaps it was an excellent idea. What was not an excellent idea, however, was to misjudge the relative tightness of a 20-year-old sphincter and the propulsive reliability of a 20-cent bottle rocket. What followed ignition was not the bright report of a successful blastoff, but the muffled thud of fire in the hole.
Also on the deck, and also in the thrall of the night’s pleasures, was one Louis Helmburg III, an education major and ace benchwarmer for the Thundering Herd baseball team. His response to the proposed launch was the obvious one: he reportedly whipped out his cellphone to record it on video, which would turn out to be yet another of the night’s seemingly excellent but ultimately misguided ideas. When the bottle rocket exploded in Hughes’s rectum, Helmburg was seized by the kind of battlefield panic that has claimed brave men from outfits far more illustrious than even the Thundering Herd. Terrified, he staggered away from the human bomb and fell off the deck. Fortunately for him, and adding to the Chaplinesque aspect of the night’s miseries, the deck was no more than four feet off the ground, but such was the urgency of his escape that he managed to get himself wedged between the structure and an air-conditioning unit, sustaining injuries that would require medical attention, cut short his baseball season, and—in the fullness of time—pit him against the mighty forces of the Alpha Tau Omega national organization, which had been waiting for him.
It takes a certain kind of personal-injury lawyer to look at the facts of this glittering night and wrest from them a plausible plaintiff and defendant, unless it were possible for Travis Hughes to be sued by his own anus. ..."
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/...nities/357580/
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02-20-2014, 10:42 AM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Re: It was the wrong thread
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
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George Mason makes me sad, but there are too many LS there. And Fla Coastal, does that means GGG and other alumnus will be called upon to foot even more donations?
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02-20-2014, 02:33 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Posts: 14,167
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Re: It was the wrong thread
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
"One warm spring night in 2011, a young man named Travis Hughes stood on the back deck of the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity house at Marshall University, in West Virginia, and was struck by what seemed to him—under the influence of powerful inebriants, not least among them the clear ether of youth itself—to be an excellent idea: he would shove a bottle rocket up his ass and blast it into the sweet night air. And perhaps it was an excellent idea. What was not an excellent idea, however, was to misjudge the relative tightness of a 20-year-old sphincter and the propulsive reliability of a 20-cent bottle rocket. What followed ignition was not the bright report of a successful blastoff, but the muffled thud of fire in the hole.
Also on the deck, and also in the thrall of the night’s pleasures, was one Louis Helmburg III, an education major and ace benchwarmer for the Thundering Herd baseball team. His response to the proposed launch was the obvious one: he reportedly whipped out his cellphone to record it on video, which would turn out to be yet another of the night’s seemingly excellent but ultimately misguided ideas. When the bottle rocket exploded in Hughes’s rectum, Helmburg was seized by the kind of battlefield panic that has claimed brave men from outfits far more illustrious than even the Thundering Herd. Terrified, he staggered away from the human bomb and fell off the deck. Fortunately for him, and adding to the Chaplinesque aspect of the night’s miseries, the deck was no more than four feet off the ground, but such was the urgency of his escape that he managed to get himself wedged between the structure and an air-conditioning unit, sustaining injuries that would require medical attention, cut short his baseball season, and—in the fullness of time—pit him against the mighty forces of the Alpha Tau Omega national organization, which had been waiting for him.
It takes a certain kind of personal-injury lawyer to look at the facts of this glittering night and wrest from them a plausible plaintiff and defendant, unless it were possible for Travis Hughes to be sued by his own anus. ..."
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/...nities/357580/
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